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I am making a profit (and am sure of that) 1 3.57%
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:22 PM
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Why is Dungy and Smith making the Super Bowl the step towards racial equality, and not the fact that these guys were hired in the first place?

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Both are steps, but the Super Bowl deal is more noteworthy right now because it's a significant first, and serves as a signpost that things are getting better.

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My question is still, when do we deem it enough that there's "racial equality"? 50% of the head coaches are black?

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I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's not about numbers. Rather, it's about attitude. When the percentage of black coaches happens to dwindle and the mood around the NFL is such that almost no one thinks it has anything to do with race, then we'll know. The numbers are just something tangible to point to in the discussion.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:23 PM
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Oh, and another question that needs to be asked: where would these black coaches come from? It takes a while to work your way up through the ranks of coaching in the NFL, and there simply aren't that many black prospects out there. Just about every successful coordinator has been scooped up for a coaching job, black or white. Who's left that's black? Mike Singletary, I guess? Who else?
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:24 PM
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I was enoying the article until this line:
"even if there was never a moment when anyone thought, "Wow, he's cutting the Pats up with a SCALPEL right now.""

he's wrong here

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Agreed. It got to the point where I figured the Patriots' only chance to stop the Colts was to strip a WR of the ball 20 yards downfield (which they did, actually).
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:26 PM
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I think it's great that two black coaches are in the SB. Dungy and Smith both seem like real stand up guys and good coaches. I just don't want to be inundated for the next two weeks about the HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF TWO BLACK COACHES IN THE SUPER BOWL!! If the media coverage gets too over the top it will actually fuel resentment for these guys.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:31 PM
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Rather, it's about attitude. When the percentage of black coaches happens to dwindle and the mood around the NFL is such that almost no one thinks it has anything to do with race, then we'll know.

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I agree. But how big of an issue is race to most NFL fans? How many people noticed that Tony Dungy was the first in the SB before CBS and Fox started saying it 20 times a minute?
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:41 PM
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Hey guys, take the race discussion to a new thread or something, this hijack is getting ridiculous, 90 of the last 100 replies were about it and not the game.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:43 PM
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Rather, it's about attitude. When the percentage of black coaches happens to dwindle and the mood around the NFL is such that almost no one thinks it has anything to do with race, then we'll know.

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I agree. But how big of an issue is race to most NFL fans? How many people noticed that Tony Dungy was the first in the SB before CBS and Fox started saying it 20 times a minute?

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No way to know. I've lived in some communities in which it would be a total non-issue, and I've been in a few (most notably college with a bunch of Long Island preppy white kids) in which black people took a ton of [censored] behind closed doors just for being black people.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:49 PM
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Benza,

The game is over. What's left to discuss?
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:55 PM
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There is a big difference between the media mentioning/covering it and harping on it, driving it down our throats, drawing attention to it over and over and over and over.

You'll hear about it 50 million times before the game, 50 million times pre-game show, 50 million times during the game, and 50 million times after the game.

Sports broadcasters should focus on sports, leave the political/social commentary to someone else.

Just like for some god damn reason sports broadcasters are still able to work in references to hurricane Katrina no matter what the teams or sports, wtf.

I personaly had no clue no black coach had ever coached in the super bowl till this week, because I DON'T GIVE A DAMN. I don't keep a chart on my wall of the races of the NFL coaches, etc.
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:59 PM
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Skip Bayless on the Patriots:

"I think they've now lost come confidence in that QB of theirs."

This guy can't be serious, can he?
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