STTF SNG->cash thread

[Jbrochu]

Karp, sick spot on the river with no reads. I guess I call getting 2.3-to-1 and no reads.

I like how you played the rest of the hand on every street.

[Scuba Chuck]

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This guy is 8 PFR, I have a hard time believing he stacks off pf with JJ or AQ vs a BB reraise. Also cha being to the immediate right of him won't have messed with his raises much before, not to mention that he is 8 PFR so cha should stay the hell away from his raises. If you think JJ or AQ is in his range though then it's a snap call.

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Just so we're clear, 8 PFR is 8%. Isn't the following range 8%?
22+,AQs+,AQo+


And the following would be 4%:
JJ+,AQs+,AQo+

[Scuba Chuck]

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Did I play this ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($24.65)
MP1 ($24.75)
MP2 ($31.70)
CO ($15.30)
Button ($3.75)
Hero ($36.05)
BB ($7.75)
UTG ($18.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4, MP2 calls $4.

Turn: ($16.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $26.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $26.20, UTG folds.

River: ($0) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $69.15

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If you know villain will do this on the turn, it's a sick move. Just sick. If you lost, I assume villain had T8.

[GtrHtr]

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Just so we're clear, 8 PFR is 8%. Isn't the following range 8%?
22+,AQs+,AQo+


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Not always in cash games. His 22-77 maybe limp pf hands and he could pfr KQs or KQo or AJs or even T9s to replace 22-77.

[Jbrochu]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($83.30)
BB ($46.90)
UTG ($20.75)
jb ($24.65)
CO ($17.50)
Button ($60.40)

Preflop: jb is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">jb raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">jb bets $2</font>, CO calls $2.

Turn: ($6.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">jb...?</font>


Villain is 50/17/1.5 over 18

I'm pretty sure I still have the best hand. Should I bet to protect the hand and for value, or check to control the size of the pot and maybe let him bluff into me?

[DevinLake]

I'd bet, weaker Qs, random hands, spades make up a large part of his range. I believe there is value in betting. I'd bet like $4.

[Jbrochu]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($58.40)
SB ($17.10)
jb ($31.65)
UTG ($5.85)

Preflop: jb is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, jb checks.

Flop: ($0.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.75</font>, jb calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, jb checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1.75</font>, SB folds, jb...?

Normally, I like to call with nut flush draws rather than raise and possibly chase away smaller flushes. This is also partly because opponents don't fold middle pairs, etc. at the low limits, so I feel it's better to wait until you have the best hand to put the money in.

This backfired on me here as shorty just outplayed me and stuck me in a bad spot where I can either call without direct odds and no gauranty he'll put the rest of his stack in if I hit the flush, push with the likely current worst hand, or meakly fold.

Should I have just raised the flop lead because of shorty behind me or just accept that once in a while you're going to find yourself in a weird spot like this?

Edit: shortstack was 20/5/2 over 20, SB was unknown it's his second hand at the table.

[BHokie1]

I've only been at the table maybe 10 hands, BB was maybe 10/0 - i.e. relatively unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($10.05)
BB ($28.55)
UTG ($11.55)
UTG+1 ($6.15)
MP1 ($8)
Hero ($22)
CO ($23.65)
Button ($24.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.50, SB calls $1.40, BB calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($10.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls $7, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($24.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $14</font>, Hero calls $13.50 (All-In).



Final Pot: $51.50

[blackize]

Villain is 21/12/3.5 over 140. Wtf does he donk two streets like this with? In retrospect, the only thing I can think of that he plays like this is Txcc, but in game this just had me really confused. Give me a turn action and an idea of what to do on the river.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $76.50
CO: $45.40
BTN: $81.05
SB: $49.30
BB: $48.70

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, CO calls $1.25, BTN folds, SB calls $1, BB folds

Flop: ($4.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, CO folds, SB calls $6

Turn: ($22.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $14</font>, Hero ?

[cakewalk]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP ($124.70)
Hero ($240.75)
Button ($195.85)
SB ($102.90)
BB ($100)
UTG ($94.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $44</font>, Button calls $29.

Flop: ($90.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $50</font>, Hero folds.

villain is a 23/18 reg
we have some history so far, i 4bet him earlier and he folded, and he's been 3betting me with some frequency