AVERAGE SPEED VIII: GAME THREAD

[Nicholasp27]

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that makes sense, dmk

i'll tell u what: if fnord comes up wolf, i'll do a thorough re-read and re-examine the 3 remaining people before auto-lynching scott

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assume we play down to you/OH/soah. who do you vote for?

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at this point, soah, as oh has been a villager to me all game

but i would definitely put much more thought into it and re-read at that point

that's why i could use anything u guys come up with re: soah vs oh in case we do get to that point

[soah]

Note: I am counting days start at 1, not at 0. wtf @ day 0 ?

Day 4, I noted SH's posts on books as being a bit wolfy. As I recall, his argument for books being a wolf was because he made a post on Day 2 where he mistakenly wrote bobO while referring to Shortline. When the voting is 5-4-2-2 thebram-bobo-me-chuckles he adds his vote to bobo to make it 5-5. When the votes start swinging to books, he choose to stay on bobo. I'm not sure of the significance of this.

Bleh. My dinner is ready. Wanted to get more analysis done before posting, but I guess I'll be doing this in chunks instead.

[soah]

btw OH, I did consider that things had happened Day 2 exactly as what you claim (that you had been rereading, and that your comment was sarcastic). And I don't really have any reason not to believe you. So, I'll keep working on the rest of it to see if there is any basis at all for me to suspect you. But dinner first.

[fnord_too]

Soah,

I have changed my oppinion of you this game since the first few days. The reason strong defense is suspicious is because power roles tend to react more vehemently to pressure. You said:
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I defended myself heavily because the accusations against me were ridiculous and easy to disprove. I don't understand why anyone would expect me NOT to defend myself in that situation.


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Most villagers would say something to the effect that the arguments are stupid if they said anything at all. Other people recognize stupid accusations, too. When you rise up to the bait and get so animate over dubious reasoning, people (definitely me) begin to wonder why, when we are so used to basely accusations being thrown around early, the majority of which don't stick. In short, when people attack early on they are looking for a reaction. You reacted a lot.

I am having trouble recalling all the early round arguments, but I don't see me getting in a reread today, so that means probably not at all. Lately you have seemed much more like a villager to me. It could be because others have seemed so wolfy, but right now I would put you at the bottom of my list. You are not, however, confirmed by any stretch.

[soah]

OK, continuing on SH again:

I'm flip flopping already. Much of his argument against books was dependent upon bobo being a wolf, and all he did was try to get bobo lynched, not books. Even when the votes start swining from bobo to books, he chooses to stay on bobo. The vote he puts on bobo to push it 5-5 is going to make him look bad regardless of which of bobo or thebram get lynched. As a wolf he'd have an easy time playing the AFK card to find a better spot to put in his vote, I think. He didn't move to chuckles, but that may or may not mean anything, since the chuckles lynch totally came out of nowhere to get majority almost instantly.

Day 5, SH comes out voting thebram, citing Day 1 voting. It strikes me as odd to still be using Day 1 as basically the ONLY reason for your vote, now that so much more information is available... like books getting eaten the night before. I believe that SH ignored that completely in all of his posts. He does list Horn as his #2 suspect, though. Magra is ahead in the voting, and he comes out with this: "anybody interested in making a wmonfor wagon happen?" Then at the end, he ends up voting Magra. Very confusing. But once again, I don't see why he wouldn't just keep his vote on thebram as a wolf.

Overall, leaning villager for SH based on days 4 and 5.

[soah]

Back to fnord again. I didn't take notes on anything from him Day 4 other than his attack on me.

Day 5, he votes Horn, but he doesn't actually think the night kill was a seer hunt..? His posts were a bit confusing, but he thought Horn was a wolf, so, whatever... only other thing I noted was that after MDD asks the seer to peek him (fnord), he agrees that it would be a good idea, in order to have him as a confirmed villager, etc. I just keep asking myself if he's just trying some reverse psychology in order to not get peeked. For some reason, I just have it in my head that a villager would typically respond more along the lines of "ok, you could do that, but it would be a waste," especially in fnord's spot where there wasn't hardly any interest in lynching him.

Overall I'm still undecided... and running out of time. =(

[dmk]

fine, i'm out for the night. fnord...wolves, plz kill me tonight, thx [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[soah]

Nich shows up on Day 4, in his first analysis he says that fnord seems to be off his usual villager game... but he thinks that fnord is trying to change up his game to be harder to read, and is still a villager (I'm paraphrasing this from memory, but something like that). A rather odd post, especially in light of our present situation. He has a pretty broad wolf list of thebram, chuckles, bobo, mcnutty, magra, and books. Eh, one out of six is ok? He doesn't like the bobo wagon, switches to books.

Day 5, he posts about how the kill of books implicates Horn... 10 minutes after the Day post. He says that Magra and McNutty should go after Horn. Later in the day, he has switched to preferring Magra and McNutty first, and lumps Horn into a secondary group with thebram and Zurvan. I just can't shake the feeling that he knew the books kill would look terrible for Horn and he tried to get out there and say it first (even Horn voted for himself at that point - I guess the wolves were just going to give him up at that point?) But then when he sees the villagers aren't even going for it (lol village?) he buries Horn away with all his other suspects again. At the end of the day, he was talking about it being okay to end the day early (with a majority lynch on Magra). When he sees that there is disagreement on that, he switches his vote to thebram..?

Then we have the whole fake seer peeks. He listed oh/mdd/fnord/wmon as villagers. I think it is fairly safe to assume that at least one of nich, oh, and fnord must be a wolf due to his survival. This tells me exactly nothing, lol. So the only thing to consider is whether he would do that as a wolf, and I don't know.

Overall, Day 5 from him bothers me.

[durron597]

NIGHT

[0] dmk voted for fnord_too
[4] fnord_too voted for Nicholasp27
[2] Nicholasp27 voted for fnord_too
[0] Our House voted for fnord_too
[0] ScottHoward voted for Nicholasp27
[0] soah
[0] wmonfor voted for fnord_too

[durron597]

Don't you guys know what fnord means?

From wikipedia:

In these novels, the interjection "fnord" is given hypnotic power over the unenlightened. Under the Illuminati program, children, while still in grade school, are taught to be unable to consciously see the word "fnord". For the rest of their lives, every appearance of the word subconsciously generates a feeling of uneasiness and confusion, and prevents rational consideration of the subject.

In the Shea/Wilson construct, fnords are scattered liberally in the text of newspapers and magazines, causing fear and anxiety in those following current events. However, there are no fnords in the advertisements, encouraging a consumerist society. It is implied in the books that fnord is not the actual word used for this task, but merely a substitute, since most readers would be unable to see the actual word. In the movie They Live, the main character discovers a similar conspiracy when hidden conformity messages appearing on billboards, magazines, television, and currency are revealed to those wearing special sunglasses.

To see the fnords means to be unaffected by the supposed hypnotic power of the word or, more loosely, of other fighting words. The phrase "I have seen the fnords" was famously graffitied on a railway bridge (known locally as Anarchy Bridge) between Earlsdon and Coventry (U.K.) city centre throughout the 1980s and 1990s, until the bridge was upgraded. The bridge and the phrase were mentioned in the novel A Touch of Love by Jonathan Coe.



When fnord_too was forcefully moved off campus, they went through his things and found a bag full of these:



fnord_too was a Young republican.

Congratulations village, only one more to go!

Final voting:

[0] dmk voted for fnord_too
[4] fnord_too voted for Nicholasp27
[2] Nicholasp27 voted for fnord_too
[0] Our House voted for fnord_too
[0] ScottHoward voted for Nicholasp27
[0] soah
[0] wmonfor voted for fnord_too