ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs - Page 144

Wayfare · #**1431** 02-25-2006, 04:51 PM

I find many of the moral condemnation posts completely unbelievable. Look at the situation: this is a teenager, who has two choices:

1: Make hundreds of thousands of dollars extra by "cheating," an activity that has no legal ramifications at all. The worst that will happen to you is some of your money will get taken away and you will be flamed on an internet message board.

2: Make less money honestly.

When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

It's worthless to take the holier than thou attitude until you've been faced with the temptation and have overcome it.

perrier · #**1432** 02-25-2006, 04:52 PM

I swear to god if someone quotes the completely idiotic kamikazi account strategy one more time and makes me read that ridiculously dumb thing again I'm going to go insane.

From a completely hypothetical viewpoint it is obvious to anyone who knows anything about multis that the advantage in 6 accounts is not to friggan kamikazi them and dump the chips into the OTHER strong players in the field.

Oh also, please do not counter this with the other painful to read line "you usually wouldn't play for all of your chips at that point in the tourny for a coinflip" That is something else I'd like to not read anymore.

Please.

bugstud · #**1433** 02-25-2006, 04:54 PM

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I find many of the moral condemnation posts completely unbelievable. Look at the situation: this is a teenager, who has two choices:

1: Make hundreds of thousands of dollars extra by "cheating," an activity that has no legal ramifications at all. The worst that will happen to you is some of your money will get taken away and you will be flamed on an internet message board.

2: Make less money honestly.

When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

It's worthless to take the holier than thou attitude until you've been faced with the temptation and have overcome it.

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well stated.

Clarkmeister · #**1434** 02-25-2006, 04:55 PM

Thank god you are here to let us know when threads are done.

MLG · #**1435** 02-25-2006, 04:56 PM

"I find many of the moral condemnation posts completely unbelievable. Look at the situation: this is a teenager, who has two choices:

1: Make hundreds of thousands of dollars extra by "cheating," an activity that has no legal ramifications at all. The worst that will happen to you is some of your money will get taken away and you will be flamed on an internet message board.

2: Make less money honestly.

When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

It's worthless to take the holier than thou attitude until you've been faced with the temptation and have overcome it."

I've overcome it, Sirio has overcome it, Ansky has overcome it, Colson has overcome it, as have many of the posters in this forum (i just picked some at random). Its not like ZJ is some magical person, he's a good tournament player, who decided to put 6 accounts into the tournaments he played. Anybody on this board could have done it, the vast majority of us didnt. Damn straight he deserves condemnation.

gumpzilla · #**1436** 02-25-2006, 04:57 PM

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When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

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Who's saying it isn't understandable? Of course it is. People are saying it's reprehensible. And many people here don't have the opportunity to cheat on quite the same scale of money, but could still cheat (without ramifications, according to your argument, though it's clear that getting your money confiscated is a rather serious risk) for thousands of dollars. So I don't think that argument really holds a lot of water, and since you're saying it makes sense to be harsh on him, I don't really see what you're getting at.

Clarkmeister · #**1437** 02-25-2006, 04:57 PM

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I really hate cheaters but seriously Party is joke for not just making it impossible to play the same tourney from the same IP, how hard could it be to Code that in, ridicilous!

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LOL, party is the joke??? Pokerstars found players playing multiple accounts in the same tournament AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT!

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It's all pretty amazing. Lee and Mike are two upstanding guys - I hope they take this seriously and start aggressively attacking the issue.

Arnfinn Madsen · #**1438** 02-25-2006, 04:59 PM

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I find many of the moral condemnation posts completely unbelievable. Look at the situation: this is a teenager, who has two choices:

1: Make hundreds of thousands of dollars extra by "cheating," an activity that has no legal ramifications at all. The worst that will happen to you is some of your money will get taken away and you will be flamed on an internet message board.

2: Make less money honestly.

When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

It's worthless to take the holier than thou attitude until you've been faced with the temptation and have overcome it.

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Your post makes no sense. Most people who has had a responsible job have had the chance to steal money. In corporate life, many workers are exposed to situations in which it would be easy to steal $1mill+ , however only a small minority does it. You apologists seem to forget that there is a CHOICE involved here, you can be a scumbag or a man.

Clarkmeister · #**1439** 02-25-2006, 04:59 PM

Mr. Cat,

Well done.

RJ! · #**1440** 02-25-2006, 05:00 PM

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I find many of the moral condemnation posts completely unbelievable. Look at the situation: this is a teenager, who has two choices:

1: Make hundreds of thousands of dollars extra by "cheating," an activity that has no legal ramifications at all. The worst that will happen to you is some of your money will get taken away and you will be flamed on an internet message board.

2: Make less money honestly.

When the difference between 1 and 2 is hundreds of thousands of dollars, I find it entirely unsurprising that ZJ would pick #1. Most of us have never been put in this situation, but I would imagine that a great many would also pick #1.

I agree with everyone who said that it's unethical. I especially agree with what ElD said about being harsh on those who cheat. I agree with everyone who said his response was poor. However, I challenge people to say to me with a straight face that it is not entirely understandable what ZJ did.

It's worthless to take the holier than thou attitude until you've been faced with the temptation and have overcome it.

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here is why this statement is flawed. one cant be a giant kooky [censored] to someone they have never met as much if they keep these things in mind. see any granniemae response that will surface in this thread as an example...

rj