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#131
10-02-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
ZJ,
"The entire table (myself included) was in agreement that he did in fact have AA, but was lying about not intending to raise. We were all pretty confident that it was an angle shot from square 1." This doesn't make any sense. If you were so sure it was an angle shoot, why are you leading the river for 5k? What McGipp said is right, it takes a lot of balls to angleshoot this well, especially when you have satellited into a tournament that is probably way above your roll. I doubt he was trying to pull a fast one. 
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#132
10-02-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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ZJ, "The entire table (myself included) was in agreement that he did in fact have AA, but was lying about not intending to raise. We were all pretty confident that it was an angle shot from square 1." This doesn't make any sense. If you were so sure it was an angle shoot, why are you leading the river for 5k? What McGipp said is right, it takes a lot of balls to angleshoot this well, especially when you have satellited into a tournament that is probably way above your roll. [/ QUOTE ] As I said in my OP, I didn't play the hand correctly. I disagree that angle shots are that hard to do. This is such a textbook play. Happens all the time.
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#133
10-02-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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so whats the key? [/ QUOTE ]
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#134
10-02-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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so whats the key? [/ QUOTE ] i interpreted as "the only hands that wouldn't c-bet that flop are way ahead of us, and he didn't c-bet the flop"
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#135
10-02-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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so whats the key? [/ QUOTE ] Wtf. I just explained it. It's obvious that the angle shot makes sense. The key is that the intention to call does not make sense with his line so far in the hand.
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#137
10-02-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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[ QUOTE ] so whats the key? [/ QUOTE ] Wtf. I just explained it. It's obvious that the angle shot makes sense. The key is that the intention to call does not make sense with his line so far in the hand. [/ QUOTE ] I totally deserve credit for posting this yesterday and I even reitereted it this morning in response to MLG's question about why some seemed sure it was an angle: [ QUOTE ] we don't know for certain whether he wanted to raise or call, but we're sure his range wants to raise in this spot a lot more often than it wants to call. [/ QUOTE ]
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#138
10-02-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
Knee, you are right, you definitely deserve some credit, although your response could have meant several things. I asked for answers with explanations, and I think mentioning the flop check is a crucial part of the explanation I was looking for.
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#140
10-02-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: Hand from Borgata WPT
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...when you say he needs more aggression in his game it could be indicative of him being prone to slowplay a set on the flop, and if he doesn't raise aq/aj pf and you assume he folds qq to the turn lead then i guess his flatting range and 'fake' raising range on the turn are only really consistent of aa/kk and maybe ak. the thing is i feel like people will slowplay sets and play ak a bit faster because they still have a small fear of being drawn out on.... [/ QUOTE ] how is this, what i wrote earlier in the thread, not the same as the key you later revealed to us all?
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