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Old 05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

I agree - a pic of the set-up RIGHT FREAKING NOW would help a lot.

You don't need all the guys over there at the same time.
Lets just see the set-up so we can, at least, TRY to buy your story.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:04 PM
KotOD KotOD is offline
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I agree - a pic of the set-up RIGHT FREAKING NOW would help a lot.

You don't need all the guys over there at the same time.
Lets just see the set-up so we can, at least, TRY to buy your story.

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It takes time to find a pick-up truck that runs, borrow people's tables, find people in Johnstown with computers, borrow their monitors, get the kids out of the back of the truck, load the stuff in the back of the truck, take it to the house, clear all of the crates and cardboard boxes out of the living room, create an "office" with your borrowed stuff, go back and get the kids, put them in the back of the truck, come home, find someone in Johnstown that owns a digital camera, borrow it, take pictures and upload.

Give the guy a break.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
dahlig763 dahlig763 is offline
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

They probably have to pick up the pyramids they made out of mountain dew cans first.

Seriously, no digital camera isn't an excuse anymore. Even little handicapped kids have cellphone cameras.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:00 PM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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And when they grab you with those metal claws, you can't break free . . . because they're made of metal, and robots are strong. Now, for only $4 a month, you can achieve peace of mind in a world full of crime and robots, with Old Glory Insurance.

So, don't cower under your afghan any longer. Make a choice. Old Glory Insurance. For when the metal ones decide to come for you - and they will.

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potd
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:43 PM
nlnut nlnut is offline
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This is the Pix of our computer setup.




If someone knows how to resize the pix bigger please do so. I don't know how.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:50 PM
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This is the Pix of our computer setup.




If someone knows how to resize the pix bigger please do so. I don't know how.

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[nit]How come the big chair is on the right? Wouldn't the head boss want to sit in the middle to supervise the operation? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img][/nit]
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

First off, I want to apologize for the delay in responding. I probably should have popped in right away yesterday to mention that we were well aware of the issue. That's pretty much what I'm doing now. This kind of issue isn't anywhere near my area of expertise, and for that reason, Sean from Support should be giving some more detail from his point of view before the end of day today.

Obviously for security reasons, I can't say much about our bot policies and detection methods. I can, however, say that we treat these issues very seriously and review our policies often. In fact, we had a meeting today involving all of our top decision makers in response to this case to re-evaluate these procedures. I also want to thank Trebek for his vigilance, and to nation, Brandon, and nlnut for telling their stories as well. It's been a very interesting thread and debate.

Doug
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:22 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Hi Doug. Thanks for dropping in. Looking forward to FTP's comments once you sort through it all.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:32 PM
Hopey Hopey is offline
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First off, I want to apologize for the delay in responding. I probably should have popped in right away yesterday to mention that we were well aware of the issue. That's pretty much what I'm doing now. This kind of issue isn't anywhere near my area of expertise, and for that reason, Sean from Support should be giving some more detail from his point of view before the end of day today.

Obviously for security reasons, I can't say much about our bot policies and detection methods. I can, however, say that we treat these issues very seriously and review our policies often. In fact, we had a meeting today involving all of our top decision makers in response to this case to re-evaluate these procedures. I also want to thank Trebek for his vigilance, and to nation, Brandon, and nlnut for telling their stories as well. It's been a very interesting thread and debate.

Doug

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Good, FT is finally on the case. Now we just have to sit back and wait patiently for the next 3 months while they investigate...
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:41 PM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: NL Bots on Full Tilt

someone asked if shortstacking could poduce such similar stats...the answer is yes and no

I've shorstacked a few hundred thousand hands last summer when I still had access to OnGame's 10BB buyin tables and juicy bonuses (damn you UIGEA). My numbers differed by much more than the players here. HOwever, that is because I would learn and tweak as I went along. It was nice to win, but I liked trying to push the winrate higher. I am somewhat amazed that these guys have been so dedicated to their system. FFS, fold your small blind everytime guys. I'm serious....I saw your winrate in that position.

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also, I played a very similar nitty style to that of the alleged botters last summer to make some dough with low variance. I did talk about it in Vegas with many other SSNLers. Actually, I mentioned it at a SSNL donkfest game at the Orleans. Nation and Pokerfink were sitting directly to my right. Georgia Avenue, Isura, Pokey, Dominic, and 4_2_it were also present. I believe that Isura, Pokey, Nation, and Pokerfink would all recall that the topic was discussed. I hope my talk of a simple system, which was originally derived from a post punter11235 made on set-mining, was not the basis of this scourge.
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