~~~ OFFICIAL YANKEES 2007 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS OR BUST THREAD ~~~

[Karak567]

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That's because their defense is terrible.

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werent they fourth in AL FRAR last year?

either way, Jeter was the problem tonight

he had 2 errors and I counted three bouncing singles up the middle which a major league shortsop should at least be making contact with that he didn't even touch

add in 3 wild pitches and 1 passed ball...

ugly, ugly game

[THAY3R]

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That's because their defense is terrible.

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werent they fourth in AL FRAR last year?



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No idea, but I find that rather impossible. I know 2 seasons ago The Fielding Bible had Cano, Jeter, and Matsui(and Bernie) all bottom 2 at their position.

Dial's ratings have almost all of their players well below average :

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...s_as_i_see_it/

[Karak567]

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That's because their defense is terrible.

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werent they fourth in AL FRAR last year?



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No idea, but I find that rather impossible. I know 2 seasons ago The Fielding Bible had Cano, Jeter, and Matsui(and Bernie) all bottom 2 at their position.

Dial's ratings have almost all of their players well below average :

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...s_as_i_see_it/

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Well, I think we can all agree that Matsui and Jeter aren't the best at their position... not even close.

Cano is still developing, I'm not ready to write him off yet.

That said, we should be careful when using defensive metrics, for the obvious reasons we all know.

[Karak567]

Found it.

Not FRAR, but team defensive efficiency.

Yanks were number four in baseball:


http://www.baseball-analysis.com/sta...php?cid=116643

[sylar]

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Found it.

Not FRAR, but team defensive efficiency.

Yanks were number four in baseball:


http://www.baseball-analysis.com/sta...php?cid=116643

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i am looking through it, and this statistic seems rather useless. everyone in baseball is relatively close to each other. besides, pitching factors into this, so it's more difficult to extrapolate fielding out of this.

[Triumph36]

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Found it.

Not FRAR, but team defensive efficiency.

Yanks were number four in baseball:


http://www.baseball-analysis.com/sta...php?cid=116643

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yeah I don't even have to go to that link to know it's gotta be wrong. I mean, c'mon, you've got jeter, cano, and giambi with zero range, bernie williams with less than zero range, a-rod who makes a ton of errors (and whose range is probably average to slightly above average).

the only plus fielder was melky cabrera and maybe jorge posada

[Karak567]

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Found it.

Not FRAR, but team defensive efficiency.

Yanks were number four in baseball:


http://www.baseball-analysis.com/sta...php?cid=116643

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yeah I don't even have to go to that link to know it's gotta be wrong. I mean, c'mon, you've got jeter, cano, and giambi with zero range, bernie williams with less than zero range, a-rod who makes a ton of errors (and whose range is probably average to slightly above average).

the only plus fielder was melky cabrera and maybe jorge posada

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Yeah, like I said defensive metrics = no good.

I think Cano will develop into a fine infielder, especially under the tutelage of Larry Bowa.

[Karak567]

bleh

[g-bebe]

Cano will be a fine fielder... he's still very young and can only get better. Anything's an improvement over Knoblauch.

On another note... A-Rod's blasting homers IN New York, which I love seeing. I really dislike the rap he gets around the league, not to mention from some NY faithful.

[g-bebe]

Speaking of which... A-Rod's 5th dinger!

All he has to do is keep this pace, and he'll hit 135 HR, and drive in 351 RBI.

gg