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Old 02-21-2007, 02:35 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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I still hate our 40.-Nb3 which handed the draw over to curtains, we could have made him sweat more by not letting his king to get on such a good square [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It really didn't matter at that point. It was just drawn as we really needed to get our king up to at least d5 to have any winning chances at all, and curtains wasn't going to allow that.

I hated 34...Qxb3. Why everyone was in such a rush to trade one of our good pawns on a7 for one of his weak ones on b3, while at the same time trading Queens in a position where his Kingside is a bit airy is beyond me. Yes we get a passed pawn, but I'd rather have won this pawn outright and had two of them if possible.

RoundTower: 18...d4 was an idea of BlackSails, a very strong player who perhaps could have made IM if he had remained active. He and I did a lot of analysis of this on a pocket set in our favorite Tex Mex place. We didn't see any improvements for white and I actually think curtains did a good job killing our counterplay after this pawn sac by eventually returning the pawn.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:43 AM
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I had no chance to win the endgame, and some small chance to lose if I did something dumb.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:45 AM
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Sorta interesting game. Where do you think you went wrong curtains? My positional senses said that White was at least slightly, maybe clearly better after the opening. I still hate our 40.-Nb3 which handed the draw over to curtains, we could have made him sweat more by not letting his king to get on such a good square [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hi my lazy opinion after looking at the game briefly with a computer, is that both sides played reasonably well.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:46 AM
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I still hate our 40.-Nb3 which handed the draw over to curtains, we could have made him sweat more by not letting his king to get on such a good square [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It really didn't matter at that point. It was just drawn as we really needed to get our king up to at least d5 to have any winning chances at all, and curtains wasn't going to allow that.

I hated 34...Qxb3. Why everyone was in such a rush to trade one of our good pawns on a7 for one of his weak ones on b3, while at the same time trading Queens in a position where his Kingside is a bit airy is beyond me. Yes we get a passed pawn, but I'd rather have won this pawn outright and had two of them if possible.

RoundTower: 18...d4 was an idea of BlackSails, a very strong player who perhaps could have made IM if he had remained active. He and I did a lot of analysis of this on a pocket set in our favorite Tex Mex place. We didn't see any improvements for white and I actually think curtains did a good job killing our counterplay after this pawn sac by eventually returning the pawn.

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omg up against so many ringers!
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:32 AM
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Sorta interesting game. Where do you think you went wrong curtains? My positional senses said that White was at least slightly, maybe clearly better after the opening. I still hate our 40.-Nb3 which handed the draw over to curtains, we could have made him sweat more by not letting his king to get on such a good square [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hi my lazy opinion after looking at the game briefly with a computer, is that both sides played reasonably well.

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lazy bastard :P my 2300 opinion says a player of your caliber should have squeezed more out of the opening (I did not use a computer at any point of the game fwiw).

TimM, of course I agree that the ending is drawn even without 40.-Nb3 but, say, against a 2000ish player in a tournament game I'd expect to grind it into a win about 50% of the time. Certainly not dead drawn.
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:31 PM
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I hated 34...Qxb3. Why everyone was in such a rush to trade one of our good pawns on a7 for one of his weak ones on b3, while at the same time trading Queens in a position where his Kingside is a bit airy is beyond me.

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A lot of the lines discussed did not lead anywhere convincing yet it won the vote.
Either the fear of losing or the anit-Qxb3 vote got split over 34….Nc3, 34… a5 and 34… Rc8.
I was sort of fond of 34…. a5 but I think that’s because I’ve not played real chess in a decade.
Overall all I thought it was a pretty good game.

Maybe our last chance to seriously mix it up was with..
34. … Qxb3 35. Bxa7 Qb4
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