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#121
12-31-2006, 04:32 AM
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Just to throw his name out there and see what happens ... Bo Jackson Keep in mind how much hype there was about him back then. [/ QUOTE ] Bo was never as good as the hype- I remember Buck O'neil comparing his power to Ruth's in Ken Burn's (abomidable) PBS "baseball" documentary miniseries... and there's all the "bo knows" commercials... but he was very damn good. i think he would have had a carrer arc and legacy simaler to that of griffey jr or clinton portis, rather than bonds or marcus allen. 
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#122
12-31-2006, 05:54 AM
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I remember Buck O'neil comparing his power to Ruth's in Ken Burn's (abomidable) PBS "baseball" documentary miniseries [/ QUOTE ] objection, your honor.
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#124
12-31-2006, 05:42 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] or Nolan Ryan are No. 1 on my list [/ QUOTE ] you are out of your mind. [/ QUOTE ] Nolan Ryan was a very special, distinctive player. That said, half the world thinks he's the best pitcher ever. [/ QUOTE ] exactly, incredible pitcher... best of all time? not even close.
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#125
01-01-2007, 05:35 AM
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Rice--park inflated #'s & slow--NOT a hall of famer.
Jeter, to some extent. He's not worthy of mentioning in the same breath as A-rod in terms of greatness--completely different levels imo. Paul O'Neill annoyed me. Can anyone make the case about why he shouldn't be overrated? No winner references please--the yankee pitching of the era took care of that. Just a cog in the machine.
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#126
01-01-2007, 06:00 AM
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Rice--park inflated #'s & slow--NOT a hall of famer. Jeter, to some extent. He's not worthy of mentioning in the same breath as A-rod in terms of greatness--completely different levels imo. Paul O'Neill annoyed me. Can anyone make the case about why he shouldn't be overrated? No winner references please--the yankee pitching of the era took care of that. Just a cog in the machine. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but a good cog. He played hard, did a lot of little things right and fostered a winning approach. I was never a fan of O'Neill's but I respected his work ethic and attitude. The Yanks then were the same as now: so much talent, they just needed to be on the same page with the right focus. O'Neill had that focus and it felt like he fostered it in others. Agreed on Rice, btw. If he didn't inherit his position from Williams and Yaz, I doubt we'd have to endure this 'debate' every year.
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#127
01-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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objection, your honor. gotta be more specific than that. [/ QUOTE ] Ken Burns' Baseball was masterful.
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#128
01-01-2007, 06:06 AM
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Paul O'Neill annoyed me. Can anyone make the case about why he shouldn't be overrated? No winner references please--the yankee pitching of the era took care of that. Just a cog in the machine. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure who's overrating him. Yankee fans understandably love the guy but it's not like they're out there beating the drum for his HOF induction. I loathed the guy when he was playing but I think he's seen for what he was: an extremely solid player who played on some great teams.
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#129
01-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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He played hard, did a lot of little things right and fostered a winning approach. [/ QUOTE ] This is why people think he's overrated. You're spewing empty slogans.
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#130
01-01-2007, 06:02 PM
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[ QUOTE ] He played hard, did a lot of little things right and fostered a winning approach. [/ QUOTE ] This is why people think he's overrated. You're spewing empty slogans. [/ QUOTE ] I guess we have different definitions of what's empty and what's not. Regardless, Uston's answer was pretty much dead on.
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