What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?

[Yeti]

This is perhaps a pretty dumb question but an answer would be cool. When someone signs up for a backing deal with sheets or someone else, is there a fixed amount of time on the contract? Does makeup have to be repaid or is it possible to jet at the end of the time w/out paying it?

[Burno]

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Ask Daniel N. and Scotty N. it happened in a limit tournament where Daniel backed Scotty.

Cards weren't mucked, just checked down, one had the nuts.

Kathy

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Details? When? What event?

I realize this probably could be deduced, but want to be 100% before I go looking for the footage.

Weren't Daniel and Scotty both at the FT of the season 1 WPT Party cruise that Edog won?




YETI: I think sheets pretty much answered your question earlier in the thread.

[Yeti]

ah, i see it. ty.

[jsnipes28]

It seems to me that if someone was stuck a lot, owed a lot of makeup, they could chip dumb for a price to someone OUTSIDE their team or stable.

Because they know that they are not going to get out of their 200k makeup hole they can freeroll and if the time becomes right chip dump for 20-30k to someone else and be able to just pocket that cash.

Essentialy, the backers get played unless the horse is running sick hot and appears like he will make a final table-otherwise they dump to someone else for a fee they can pocket.

I have never heard of anyone doing this, its just a nice little conspiracy plan that popped into my head.

[daryn]

this thread is pretty funny.. everyone coming out of the woodwork like, HEY GUYS! SHEETS, BAX, BACK ME!!

[The Camel]

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Shane,

On the American pro poker circuit, what % of players you have come into contact with would you label as "low life scum, who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw"?

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It might just be my own experiences, but a very low percentage. Of the dozens (probably hundreds) of (specifically American?) players I have met, there is only a small handful that I explicitly don't trust, and fewer whom I don't like.

I've said it before, but people on the poker circuit exemplify "honor amongst thieves" and are more straightforward and real than people I've met in any other fringe microcosm (or, for that matter, in the straight world of business/finance/lawyer-types).

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When I first thought about giving up work to play poker my mentor (and he's turned into one of my closets friends) said "Don't do it. 99% of poker players are complete [censored]". While he was obviously exagerating, I'm afraid not by as much much as I would like.

There are certain people in poker who I have met who I would trust implicitly and if I ever left the game to do something else I would hope they would be friends for life. But, maybe because I'm naturally more cynical than you, in poker someone has to earn my trust, whereas outside of poker I would tend to trust someone until they proved themselves not worthy of that trust.

I must admit, the last three years the situation has got alot better with many more respectable people coming into the game.

But, I have to agree with El D. In my experience there is a much bigger % of lowlifes in poker than in any other walk of life.

[suzzer99]

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this thread is pretty funny.. everyone coming out of the woodwork like, HEY GUYS! SHEETS, BAX, BACK ME!!

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clever

[shaniac]

Camel,

I guess there are different levels of trust. There are very few people in the poker world that I need to explicitly trust, so I don't necessarily figure to uncover who all the unstrustworthy ones are. Still, it doesn't seem like there is a saturation of wicked people lurking around every corner in the poker world, trying to take advatnage of me or others. I think this is very true on the circuit, where people rely on a good reputation as much as anything to get by.

It's a version of Dylan's line, "To live outside the law you must be honest," and I think, for the most part, poker players are just trying to get by and most aren't actively out to jam anyone else up for their own advancement. Certainly, there are people on tour whom I don't trust, some that I like in spite of that and some that I avoid because of it, but I've found that dynamic to exist wherever I go in life.

Could just be that I am a "glass half-full" type of guy, whereas you and Sirio are "glass half-empty" types.

[kuelk420]

"To live outside the law you must be honest,"
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