Online gambling to be attached to defense bill???- article Uh oh!!! - Page 13

Corpsebean · #**121** 09-15-2006, 12:30 PM

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So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?

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From what I've read, it feels like we're(online poker players) all in with AK suited against two Jacks.

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And three other players folded AK.

LameCapper · #**122** 09-15-2006, 12:32 PM

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So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?

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Yes, but a half ass passage with shaky at best language is probably better long term then no passage and a lingering threat

Please keep in mind that we have no evidence that this will in fact be a "half ass attempt full of loopholes" at the moment, but it seems like a real possibility

Lawman007 · #**123** 09-15-2006, 01:10 PM

This is nothing but a sleazy, underhanded political move by a slimeball (Frist) who probably has realized that the bill won't pass any other way. Flood Frist's Washington office, 202-224-3344, with calls right now letting him know what you think of this.

It doesn't matter whether or not you live in Tennessee. This idiot wants to be president, and he's going to need votes from all around the country to do that.

jrz1972 · #**124** 09-15-2006, 01:31 PM

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This is nothing but a sleazy, underhanded political move by a slimeball (Frist) who probably has realized that the bill won't pass any other way. Flood Frist's Washington office, 202-224-3344, with calls right now letting him know what you think of this.

It doesn't matter whether or not you live in Tennessee. This idiot wants to be president, and he's going to need votes from all around the country to do that.

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Please do not take this tone if you call his office. (Or anybody else's).

ski · #**125** 09-15-2006, 01:41 PM

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So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?

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From what I've read, it feels like we're(online poker players) all in with AK suited against two Jacks.

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And three other players folded AK.

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cmonnn quad queens...

xwillience · #**126** 09-15-2006, 01:54 PM

This DoD bill that Frist is trying to work the Leach Bill into, is it one of the same bills that Pres. Bush gave a speech on this morning??? it seemed rather controversial at best if it is.

also, one point that Id like to make is that while most of us probably dont use CCs very often.... our fish do. so this still very much affects us.

Nate tha\\\' Great · #**127** 09-15-2006, 01:58 PM

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So, this realistically has a shot of passing now?

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From what I've read, it feels like we're(online poker players) all in with AK suited against two Jacks.

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And three other players folded AK.

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This kind of pessimism is not warranted. It's important to recognize that the gambling langauge does not exist in the DoD bill yet. Nor, as much power as Frist has, can it be fiated into existence. He needs to negotiate it and have it approved by the conferees, many of whom are apparently quite opposed to it, albeit more on procedural grounds ("this doesn't belong here") than policy ones ("we heart gambling").

If you want to use the AKs versus JJ analogy: our main "out" is that we catch an ace or a king on the flop -- Frist gets too much blowback on the gambling language, and it doesn't go into the bill at all. Failing that, we might catch and ace or a king on the turn/river -- the language goes in, but it's sufficiently watered down so as not to be a substantial net negative. Finally, we might have some longshot backdoor outs: a "bad" version of the bill comes out of committee, but it gets fillibustered or held in the Senate.

The tradesports contract is not terribly liquid at the moment, but it's last trade was at 40%. Given how much of a black box this has become, that's probably as good an estimate as any.

Misfire · #**128** 09-15-2006, 02:31 PM

I just called Frist. I got through immediately, which tells me two things.

1) If you call 202-224-3344 right now you can probably get through.

2) Not enough people are calling 202-224-3344.

Lawman007 · #**129** 09-15-2006, 02:42 PM

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This is nothing but a sleazy, underhanded political move by a slimeball (Frist) who probably has realized that the bill won't pass any other way. Flood Frist's Washington office, 202-224-3344, with calls right now letting him know what you think of this.

It doesn't matter whether or not you live in Tennessee. This idiot wants to be president, and he's going to need votes from all around the country to do that.

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Please do not take this tone if you call his office. (Or anybody else's).

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That goes without saying.

DuderinoAB · #**130** 09-15-2006, 03:04 PM

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And how many of your ridiculed my 75% change of passage perdiction? Where there is an evil politician, there is a way...and most all politicians are evil - particularly during election season.

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You're kind of like the guy that goes all in when dominated, sucks out, and then berates the rest of the table. If the bill passes, it doesn't mean there was a 75% chance of passage...just means you happened to get lucky...kind of.