Why can't Adam Dunn hit?

[junglewarfare]

There is a simple and easy to prove the Dunn skeptics wrong, and it's his market value. End of discussion.

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rwperu- So is Vlad Guerrero just stupid? I mean, all he needs to do is swing less and he's instantly a better player. If you're arguing that being better at baseball is a good thing, no [censored]. I'm not real comfortable diagnosing psychological flaws in people I've never spoken with. For all you know Dunn is seriously working on this issue and just can't make any headway.

Back to the speed thing, no, it's definitely not Ichiro vs. Youklis. The speed guys are always pimping the Podsednick/Reyes/etc. types. Ichiro is an excellent player, no one thinks otherwise. A tad overrated, yes, but still an excellent player.

Also, is there any reason you didn't give out the player's name? Is it a secret? I mean, he's already apparently out of baseball and your connection to him is like 3rd degree.

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Vlad is a bad example, because his career OBP is about .390, which is still way above average.

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and Dunn's is .382, so wouldn't he be a bad example too?

[kyleb]

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There is a 99.5% chance that Adam Dunn does not make adjustments with two strikes and is not really working on it. Players who strike out that often are not trying. He's already one of the top hitters in the league. Why should he try?

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I will bet you that Adam Dunn works on hitting with two strikes in batting practice at least once a week. There is no way that a hitter at the major league level isn't obsessively trying to correct his flaws while maintaining the positives that got him to the big leagues in the first place.

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Another good example of stubborness is Ichiro. His whole philosiphy is he's there to hit, not to walk, or some crap like that. Walks don't help the team in his world.

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No, that is ridiculous. Ichiro doesn't swing at [censored] pitches and isn't up there "to hit". Ichiro has great plate coverage and selects the pitches he swings at with care. This is like saying Ichiro just goes up there and flails around because he's not looking to get on base with a walk, but rather a hit.

The reason Ichiro doesn't have a higher isolated OBP is because he doesn't need to take marginal pitches. He can simply hit them for singles. Adam Dunn (or Nick Swisher, or Barry Bonds, or Jason Giambi, or Frank Thomas, or Rob Deer, or whatever) on the other hand, takes those marginal pitches knowing he can't do anything meaningful with it. Sometimes that means he strikes out, and sometimes that means he walks. This leads to - you guessed it - higher strikout and walk totals.

You aren't looking at the situation correctly.

[RacersEdge]

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Hey don't get me wrong, he's a great hitter. But if he could manage a few more hits here and there, his BA would go up, his RBI's would go up, and he'd be an elite hitter.

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Going from 250 to 280 - about 15 hits per year - so how many more RBIs would that get him - 6 or 7?

[Jack of Arcades]

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There is a 99.5% chance that Adam Dunn does not make adjustments with two strikes and is not really working on it. Players who strike out that often are not trying. He's already one of the top hitters in the league. Why should he try?

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I will bet you that Adam Dunn works on hitting with two strikes in batting practice at least once a week. There is no way that a hitter at the major league level isn't obsessively trying to correct his flaws while maintaining the positives that got him to the big leagues in the first place.


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Seriously. This is the same guy that wrote "Sac Fly" on his bats because he hadn't hit one in so long.

[Sooga]

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rwperu- So is Vlad Guerrero just stupid? I mean, all he needs to do is swing less and he's instantly a better player. If you're arguing that being better at baseball is a good thing, no [censored]. I'm not real comfortable diagnosing psychological flaws in people I've never spoken with. For all you know Dunn is seriously working on this issue and just can't make any headway.

Back to the speed thing, no, it's definitely not Ichiro vs. Youklis. The speed guys are always pimping the Podsednick/Reyes/etc. types. Ichiro is an excellent player, no one thinks otherwise. A tad overrated, yes, but still an excellent player.

Also, is there any reason you didn't give out the player's name? Is it a secret? I mean, he's already apparently out of baseball and your connection to him is like 3rd degree.

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Vlad is a bad example, because his career OBP is about .390, which is still way above average.

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and Dunn's is .382, so wouldn't he be a bad example too?

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Uh, have you actually read any of this thread? When was I ever talking about Dunn's OBP being subpar?

[THAY3R]

It's really interesting that none of you guys have any idea what's really going on in Dunn's head yet you immediately jump to "He's too lazy" "He doesn't care" bla bla bla.

You really think if a coach was like "This is how you can improve your game - do this." He would be like "Nah, no thanks coach. I'm good."?

That's just redonkulous.

[prohornblower]

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There is a simple and easy to prove the Dunn skeptics wrong, and it's his market value. End of discussion.

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LOL. The California housing market says hi.