ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs

[Smoothcall]

Its safe to say 100k is the minimum the cheating made. he probably has been doing this for years and made hundreds and hundreds of thousands through this method. Just a guess.

[MadTiger]

The question begs itself? Where have YOU been?

WTF are YOU talking about?

I am talking about a 1K+ post-thread that is about done.

You are talking about, .... Damn. Fill me in, m'kay?

[adios]

I wish you would have had $1 million in your account. Your statement is disgusting. Here's a couple of quotes from your "statement" that typify why it is so:

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Yes, it’s true. I did use these accounts to enter multiple accounts in the same multi table tournaments. I have never done this in a tournament with less than 1,000 players.

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Like somehow the fact that it was 1,000 players or more made this action less reprehensible?

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I have been at the same table as myself. For what it’s worth, my standard protocol has been to increase my number of tables when this happens. As most of you know, I will very rarely be playing fewer than six tables at a time. If I had 6 tables open and two of my accounts were brought to the same table, I would simply open up 4-6 more SNGs. I felt that this would negate my unethical advantage. With 10 tables open, I just play tight and solid. I can’t even remember the hole cards one account folded after the flop, and I’m certainly unable to pay special attention to that table. After talking to Curtains, I realize my standard play should have been to sit one account out when this happens, but I want to make it clear that I never used collusion to my advantage, never chip dumped, or did anything of the sort.

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Your standard play should have been one entry into the tournament. This statement does not help you at all, neither does it mitigate your cheating. Oh jeeze now that I have two players at one table I'll just open more tables so I'm on auto pilot. Puhleeze.


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However, what Party emailed me is wrong on several subjects.
First of all, the accounts were NOT created solely for MTT use. They were originally created for SNG play. It got to the point where everyone knew that ZeeJustin would steal the blinds often, and everyone called him liberally. I created these accounts to erase this loose image. Everyone would be readless against me, and it was a huge advantage. These accounts all did very well in the big SNGs on PartyPoker.

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So closing the other accounts wasn't an option? I think not.

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First of all, that doesn’t matter. PartyPoker reserves the right to take your money for any reason at any time (although I should point out that this does not make it legal).

Secondly, almost all of you have broken the rules at some point. How many of you have created a second account for rakeback? Neither creating a second account nor receiving rakeback is allowed. Both are expressly forbidden. Maybe you’ll see things my way once all your money is seized for doing that. If I’m a cheater, so are you.

If you are a saint like CSC claims to be, kudos to you. You are in the minority, and are certainly upstanding citizens. I commend you on following Party’s rules and not receiving rakeback. Most of us are too greedy to pass up money that easy.

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Yes but you admittedly broke the rules for doing that. Some people realize that there are potential consequences for breaking the rules and this deters them and takes precedence over their greed. You got caught and now want a slap on the wrist more or less. That's beyond pathetic.


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I do think what I’ve done is unethical, and I certainly regret doing it, however, I need to point out that no where in Party’s rules is it stated that you cannot enter multiple accounts into the same tournament. Not only do they not forbid it, but to open multiple clients on the same PC, all you have to do is click the icon a bit more rapidly than normal. Great work PartyPoker.

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Again you knew what you were doing was wrong, you just don't want to suffer the consequences for your actions. You just want to blame it on the "corrupt" PartyPoker management. Nobody forced you to play there.

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In conclusion, I want to make it clear that I regret what I did, and have done somethings that were unethical. Despite this, PartyPoker’s actions are unreasonable, and their power to take the same actions against you should not be taken lightly. This rampage that PartyPoker is on will certainly not end with me. So whatever you do, be careful.

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Methinks you regret only because you got caught. You haven't stated what a reasonable course of action should be but I don't find what Party did to be unreasonable. But it does seem like Party has a lot of work to do in cleaning up cheating on their site (I love you use the word unethical as a euphamism for cheating). You cheated, you got caught, and are paying the price.

[Baulucky]

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really hate cheaters but seriously Party is joke for not just making it impossible to play the same tourney from the same IP, how hard could it be to Code that in, ridicilous!


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It's easier and more profitable to let the cheaters inflate their accounts and then just confiscate the funds to perpetuate their own (criminal?) enterprise.

You really have to laugh at all of this: A shady enterprise confiscates funds from someone that bends/breaks the site rules to make money and a bunch of other WILLING participants in cuasi illegal online gambling giving their opinions on why he deserved what he got and blah, blah, blah, unethical, etc. BS , when they are IN FACT, willing collaborators and enablers of the whole systematic "cheating" behavior.

My message to the self-righteous: If you wanna swim with the sharks, beware of the risks.

The bottom line is that ZJ broke the law (if any) on anti-internet gambling and broke some terms and conditions of an offshore site (hardly a law) to make some money. Did he break some unspoken ethical poker rules?. Certainly. But he wasn't playing that game. He was playing the game of making money.

His only sin, in my book, is the sin of pride. The devil's favorite and the true original sin. He wanted to be GOD.

Enjoy!.

[Nick B.]

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I really hate cheaters but seriously Party is joke for not just making it impossible to play the same tourney from the same IP, how hard could it be to Code that in, ridicilous!

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LOL, party is the joke??? Pokerstars found players playing multiple accounts in the same tournament AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT!

[Uncle Wimp]

AND, not once did he protect his blind with a raise from his other account. I find it hard to believe he would have allowed himself to be blinded down twice at the same table. At worst, his chips stacks remained static while others dropped around him.

[TFlo]

Yikes

[Jocke_F]

I dont play at stars so what do I care what they do, all I know is that Party should just code a [censored] blocker that makes it impossible for theese cheaters to multitable the tournaments I play in! Its easy and its quite ugly that Party doesnt do it

[Exsubmariner]

Granny,
Are you going to write Stars and tell them that if you ever see ZJ at one of their tables again, it's grounds for them losing your business? I am.

[TomBrooks]

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My point is more, that there is a monetary cost being paid. My more important point which i didn't communicate well, is I don't care if people do it that much in larger field tourneys cuz it pretty much only adds to the prize pool and nothing else.

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So to anyone who expresses a different viewpoint than yourself, you assume they are cheating and publically accuse them. That makes sense!

LET THE WITCH HUNT BEGIN!