Curtains vs PoG

[StregaChess]

OK now that primatech paper company appears to be done sending out text messages for the night.. back to the game...

Here is the issue I came up with...

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With 48.Kc5 Nxg5 49.Bxg5 Kxg5 50.Kd4 followed by 51.Ke3 White draws easily.

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After 50. Kd4 Kg4 I was able to misplay this for white and lose. The problem is that if white gets a pawn fixed on the 3rd rank and if that pawn drops, it does not matter if white has the opposition. Right.. well known basic pawn endings stuff... So in goofing off I was able to do that. The point is that the K at g4 controls f3 even with the white king at e3 cause f3+ just drop the g pawn. If white king gives way we get f3 for our king and it gets messy still....

So if all that is true, or possible some of that is true... 50. Kd4 may be a mistake and 50. f3 might avoid that "stuff" and give white the draw....

[TimM]

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With 48.Kc5 Nxg5 49.Bxg5 Kxg5 50.Kd4 followed by 51.Ke3 White draws easily.

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After 50. Kd4 Kg4 I was able to misplay this for white and lose. The problem is that if white gets a pawn fixed on the 3rd rank and if that pawn drops, it does not matter if white has the opposition.

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White can avoid this with f4 at the right moment (BK:g4; BP:g5,f5 WK:e2/e3 WP:g3,f4), then take the opposition with Kf2 once black takes on f4.

50.f3 is ok too but 50...f5 51.Kd4 f4 looked scary at first.

[StregaChess]

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50.f3 is ok too but 50...f5 51.Kd4 f4 looked scary at first.

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So what do we do, play Nf3 and see if he reads the treads or play b5. I guess all and all it's not going to make much difference.

Nf3 or b4

Do we need more talk or are we vote ready?

[TimM]

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50.f3 is ok too but 50...f5 51.Kd4 f4 looked scary at first.

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So what do we do, play Nf3 and see if he reads the treads or play b5. I guess all and all it's not going to make much difference.

Nf3 or b4

Do we need more talk or are we vote ready?

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I'm sure this position holds no secrets from curtains whether he reads the thread or not.

But since no one wants a draw, why should we make it so easy for him to take our b-pawn? Let's make him go all the way to b7 to get it if he wants. Then it won't be so easy to get back in time.

I have an idea. Let's go 44...Nb3. It will force him to think about repeating the position. If he goes 45.Bb6 we can go 45...Nd2 again.

He will have to vary if he wants to play on, or we can try the Nf3 idea later if we want to play on. It will put him in the uncomfortable spot of either allowing a draw by repetition (but only if WE want one), or playing his second choice move at some point to avoid the draw.

[StregaChess]

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I have an idea. Let's go 44...Nb3. It will force him to think about repeating the position. If he goes 45.Bb6 we can go 45...Nd2 again.


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Sure I'm up for Nb3 but if the knight gets trapped cause we fall asleep it's all on you! j/k
Its a fine idea to make him go to b7 for the pawn so why not... Let him find a path to make it a game..

[chuckleslovakian]

Curtains plays 44.g5

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2 Kf8
39. Kf3 Ke7
40. Ke4 Nb3
41. Kd5 Kd7
42. Bb6 Nd2
43. Bd4 g6
44. g5

Curtains

PoG

[chuckleslovakian]

PoG plays 44...Nb3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2 Kf8
39. Kf3 Ke7
40. Ke4 Nb3
41. Kd5 Kd7
42. Bb6 Nd2
43. Bd4 g6
44. g5 Nb3

Curtains

PoG

It is now Curtains turn

[curtains]

45. Bb6

[ScottHoward]

nd2

[fluorescenthippo]

draw?