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Old 01-25-2007, 11:44 PM
StregaChess StregaChess is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

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strega, what happens after 44. ke5...b5?

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Sorry you missed that i was a joke of sorts, on b5 I guess he contains the pawn but we still draw.
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Old 01-26-2007, 02:08 AM
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Sorry you missed that i was a joke of sorts

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Right, 44.Kc5 is stronger anyway!
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:20 AM
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44. g5
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Old 01-26-2007, 04:25 AM
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Curtains plays 44.g5

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2 Kf8
39. Kf3 Ke7
40. Ke4 Nb3
41. Kd5 Kd7
42. Bb6 Nd2
43. Bd4 g6
44. g5

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PoG

It is now PoGs turn
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

f3 forking the bishop and pawn and preventing him from protecting the G5 pawn with f4. if he protects the pawn and bishop by moving it to e3 that gives us a better chance to scoot the b pawn toward promotion.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:29 PM
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44. g5!?

I'm surprised to see this I must be a fish? He's fixed the pawn on the same color has his bishop. I'm OK with that..


Yes I like Nf3 also, he's got two squares Be3 and Bf6.


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gives us a better chance to scoot the b pawn toward promotion.

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I agree but... let's change the concept a bit. We will never promote the b pawn, not going to happen. However the "threat" of promoting the pawn can take his king away from the defense of the kingside pawns.

44. g5?! Nf3
45. Bf6 b5!

Maybe now is the time....
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:19 AM
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Any moves besides Nf3?
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:22 AM
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So how do we possibly win at this point? It seems we have to push the b pawn at some point to drive the king away. But after that I don't see how we have enough time to take his pawns and defend our own
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:14 PM
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44. g5?! Nf3
45. Bf6 b5!

Maybe now is the time....

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What am I missing? Doesn't 46. Kc5, lose the pawn?
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:49 PM
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What am I missing? Doesn't 46. Kc5, lose the pawn?

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It does, but I think the idea is that it opens up moving our K from e6 to f5 and then going to town on his remaining pawns. TimM (I think) mentioned a while back that this was our best plan -- the b pawn is best used as a distraction while our real goal is to clean out his kingside pawns and queen one of those. I'm not saying moving the b pawn is right now, just that that's what the "idea" was, as I understand it.

I wouldn't be surprised if curtains played g4 at some point, to box our king in. In fact, if we end up on this line:

44. ... b5 45. Kc5 Ke6 46. g4

...I'm not sure we'll really be able to maneuver around and do a lot of damage.

We also have Ne4+ forking K and pawn if he moves Kc5, but I think that doesn't work out well for us either.
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