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Anacardo mega wrong 3 2.31%
Anacardo semi wrong 6 4.62%
meh, can't tell 31 23.85%
Kitty semi wrong 40 30.77%
kitty mega wrong. 50 38.46%
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:46 PM
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Does wickss plan on playing in any of tomorrow night's Trout Games? I'm sure all the players there would love to have our local Celebrity Pro show up.

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Ive never played in the PLOmahahaha, but if wickss plays I am in!!!

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Old 04-17-2007, 12:47 PM
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MJ- how many SNGICONs videos has wickss watched since he got his blog/free subscription? i think if he spent a couple hours each day for a week looking at the stuff on that site he would probably double his ROI by the end of the week.

[/ QUOTE ]That answer is 0, and I agree with you, this is important. As a life coach, I would point out that a HUGE key to success in trying to play poker for a living is time management. Time management and bankroll management are equally as important as your actual game, if not more so. I'm trying to help wickss in this area.

Love chatting with you guys during the daytime. If there are more questions, I'll be back in around an hour to get to them.

P.S. In discussing time management, I am saying that he needs to be making time for videos, review of hh's, reading, thinking, etc..

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Probably should spend no less that 25- 50% of his time studying...
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:50 PM
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OMG my life is sadder than I thought ... I not only read, but posted in this thread! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 04-17-2007, 12:52 PM
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wens wicks moving up next? what his br goal
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:00 PM
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Wickss play is ok in both these hands. Who are u to talk [censored]. U short stack PLO 25... Buy in for 10 bucks, WTF.
First hand, he isn't dominated by aces and you are short.
He should call and see a flop, usually, not just put u in pf.
Second hand, he has a big straight draw, and yes u do have the flush draw, but u are also short and could be donking it up with one pair.

Neither are great hands, but they aren't that bad either.

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You don't have to be so aggressive...

About the pre-flop allin hand: if you want to make a profit as micro stakes pro here my opinion is to fold precisely because I'm a short stack. I most likely have AA or some other hand with a lot of high cards which probably dominate your hand. Because I'm short the implied odds are bad. Going PF allin is just a waste of money. You say he wasn't dominated, but he still only had 31% chance of winning; that's not much, especially not in Omaha. If he REALLY wants to push me in, he should really read me on these big card type of hands like AAxx, KKQT etc. and go allin with hands such as 5678 DS (46.5%), 8876 suited (40.2%) or 6655 DS (42.7%).

(EDIT: even random crap hands like 257T, 258J and 357Q (all unsuited) have better chance of winning than 2JQK here...)

About the straight hand: this play is just bad. Yes, he has a better than open-ended straight draw, but that doesn't mean he should check-call OOP all the way. Ok, he had 34% chance of winning on flop, so technically he got his 2:1 odds to call (on the turn he had 27.5% chance of winning), but this is just losing play. He could bet out immediatly and put the pressure on me, I might have folded because I can be scared about the set and nut FD and I had only 1 pair. He could also check-raise if he likes to make such dangerous plays. In both cases he puts the onus back on me and doesn't need to hit his draw to make any money. Odds were good I was just making a continuation bet anyway. The way he played it now, hitting his draw was the only way to win the pot and he got no implied odds when he got there. I would have either folded the turn when I called on the flop, or would have bet out right away on the flop, but not check call on flop and turn.

P.S. I like to buy in short precisely because people like you continously think I'm "donking it up with one pair" and give me way more action than when I buy in for the max.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:15 PM
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HUGE LEAK. stacking offing with low pp is bad!

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Button is on a huge range here, this is not a bad push.
This is how SNG's are won, villian was a tool, I watched this hand and lmao....

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He has to be on a super huge range for this to be +EV. Like 75%. Looks like a fold against most villains.
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:25 PM
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HUGE LEAK. stacking offing with low pp is bad!

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Button is on a huge range here, this is not a bad push.
This is how SNG's are won, villian was a tool, I watched this hand and lmao....

[/ QUOTE ]With a nearly broke BB? I have doubts that this push is +cEV let alone +$EV...
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:32 PM
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MJ,
The 55 hand is embarassingly bad, it's more than a leak, it really shows a huge lack of understanding. The 10 10 hand was marginal i guess... funny tho that you lost and wicks questioned it, i feel like he would not have questioned it if he had won. That is a HUGE problem!

good luck
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:32 PM
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MJ and Wickss, may I suggest spending some time with a push/fold trainer? That seems to be his biggest leak (well that and min-raise/folding) - just on a conceptual level, the error he seems to be making is in a situation where there is one bigger stack (~4k), one shortie (~1k) and he and another guy are even. To get into a confrontation with the other medium stack, he has to have a monster (note, this doesn't mean don't steal from the other medium, but when the other guy says he has something, lean towards believing him - you reduce your likelihood of ITM from about 80 to about 50 by continually stacking off in these spots.)
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:03 PM
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MJ- how many SNGICONs videos has wickss watched since he got his blog/free subscription? i think if he spent a couple hours each day for a week looking at the stuff on that site he would probably double his ROI by the end of the week.

[/ QUOTE ]That answer is 0, and I agree with you, this is important. As a life coach, I would point out that a HUGE key to success in trying to play poker for a living is time management. Time management and bankroll management are equally as important as your actual game, if not more so. I'm trying to help wickss in this area.

Love chatting with you guys during the daytime. If there are more questions, I'll be back in around an hour to get to them.

P.S. In discussing time management, I am saying that he needs to be making time for videos, review of hh's, reading, thinking, etc..

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Probably should spend no less that 25- 50% of his time studying...

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