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Old 08-21-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

had no software for like the past 5 weeks cus I installed vista and didn't bother getting my tracker or HUD codes again.

dicked around a bunch, finally installed holdem manager like 6 days ago, this is what I have since then:



Holdem Manager = boomswitch
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

dont worry about daily winnings zaephyr
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

Uh... wtf I guess I need to stop posting my screename

Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:09:58 PM): hey
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:10:02 PM): u play on stars
I AmBuddySchultz (1:10:14 PM): hey
I AmBuddySchultz (1:10:16 PM): yeah
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:10:23 PM): hey will u do me a big favor
I AmBuddySchultz (1:10:25 PM): who is this?
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:10:32 PM): iam on 2p2
I AmBuddySchultz (1:10:47 PM): whats your name on 2p2
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:11:48 PM): shockdaworld
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:11:54 PM): will u do me a fav.
I AmBuddySchultz (1:12:02 PM): what is it
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:12:53 PM): ok sit down at a 2/4 cent limit table
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:13:08 PM): with 500$
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:13:32 PM): please
I AmBuddySchultz (1:13:42 PM): ...
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:13:49 PM): yeah can u?
I AmBuddySchultz (1:14:10 PM): uh no, im in an airport about to get on a flight have to do some stuff first
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:14:25 PM): lol
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:14:27 PM): oh im sorry
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:14:28 PM): ok
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:14:37 PM): u cant?
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:14:46 PM): ill give u 50$ real quick
I AmBuddySchultz (1:14:54 PM): ...
I AmBuddySchultz (1:15:08 PM): first of all, i dont care about $50, second of all wtf
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:16 PM): i made a bet with this dude
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:24 PM): just sit at a 2/4 cent room plz
I AmBuddySchultz (1:15:41 PM): lol i'd rather not and have you lose your bet then
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:50 PM): lol.....
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:53 PM): ur funny
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:53 PM): lol
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:15:58 PM): please man
I AmBuddySchultz (1:16:09 PM): explain more and i'll consider
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:17 PM): ok, i was playing on ft right
I AmBuddySchultz (1:16:22 PM): i really am busy but now im intrigued
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:30 PM): me and this guy always makes bets on dumb [censored]
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:40 PM): so he said i bet i have more money then u on stars
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:46 PM): i said ddont think so
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:53 PM): he only has 480$ on stars
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:16:59 PM): so i said oh i can beat tht
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:04 PM): and he said ill bet u 300$
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:09 PM): i was like ur on
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:19 PM): so he said sit at a 2/4 cent limit
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:25 PM): i said easy
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:26 PM): lol
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:31 PM): he doesnt no my stars name
I AmBuddySchultz (1:17:46 PM): ah
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:17:58 PM): lol he sAID LYNX
I AmBuddySchultz (1:18:03 PM): so basically, you're asking me to help you cheat someone out of money because you made a retarded bet
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:09 PM): 5/10 cent limit
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:11 PM): yeah lol
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:15 PM): but we do it all the time
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:17 PM): and i think he cheats me
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:21 PM): so i want to get him back
I AmBuddySchultz (1:18:21 PM): AND you've never talked to me before and certainly cant really help me with anything
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:35 PM): Ill do anything for u in the future
I AmBuddySchultz (1:18:35 PM): interesting
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:35 PM): lol
I AmBuddySchultz (1:18:53 PM): no its cool, i dont cheat people anyways
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:18:58 PM): lol sit at lynx, 5/10 cent limit please dude
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:00 PM): you made a bet, pay the man
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:04 PM): or find someone else
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:19:07 PM): he cheats me
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:19:10 PM): please please
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:19:12 PM): i beg u
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:16 PM): sorry,
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:20 PM): there are tons of others you can find
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:19:26 PM): who?
Da ViNsTeR1212 (1:19:31 PM): i dont no any1
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:35 PM): how'd you find me
I AmBuddySchultz (1:19:39 PM): find them the same way
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

I'LL DO IT
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

ship the new gogs and boots





edit: wrong thread
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2


Shot at 2007-08-21

vs. a total drooler who wouldve called my shove with 88:

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $440.47
CO: $409.60
Button: $360.35
orange: $478.55
BB: $502.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $6</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $25</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($52, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $39</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($130, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $111</font>, CO calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($352, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange is all-in $303.55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls all-in $234.6</font>.
Uncalled bets: $68.95 returned to orange.

Results:
Final pot: $821.2
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows Ks Kd</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO Shows Jd Qc</font>

vs. another moron:

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $80.65
UTG+1: $619.05
orange: $483.70
Button: $200.10
SB: $89.60
BB: $114.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $22</font>, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($53, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $55</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($163, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange is all-in $406.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $123.1</font>.
Uncalled bets: $283.6 returned to orange.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($409.2, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $409.2)


Results:
Final pot: $409.2
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows 9d 10d</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button Shows Ad 2d</font>

coolers:

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $400.25
UTG+1: $394
CO: $251.75
Button: $142.15
SB: $213.55
orange: $857.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $27</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($54, 2 players)
SB checks, orange checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($54, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $25</font>, orange calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($104, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $161.55</font>, orange calls.

Results:
Final pot: $427.1
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows Qd Qs</font>

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $220.85
CO: $441.60
orange: $400
SB: $143.18
BB: $192.41

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $6</font>, CO folds, orange calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $44</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $214.85</font>, orange calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($448.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $448.7)


River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($448.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $448.7)


Results:
Final pot: $448.7
<font color="#ffffff">UTG Shows Jh Qh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows 9h 7h</font>

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $84.10
UTG+1: $160
orange: $510.45
Button: $111
SB: $142.25
BB: $412.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $10</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($34, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $23</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $360</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $109.25</font>.
Uncalled bets: $227.75 returned to orange.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($298.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $298.5)


River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($298.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $298.5)


Results:
Final pot: $298.5
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows 8s 8d</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB Shows 9c 9h</font>

hmm running 40% at won $ at SD. jessussssss.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

In the first hand, why do you shove the river? TP donks call down with TP.

TP hit trips on the river.....
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

[ QUOTE ]
villan will call my shove with 88

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

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Bubaloo Therom: Folding K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] preflop for 100bbs is acceptable vs the nittyest of nits.

Reads:<font color="blue">Villain is standard 15/5/0.7 50nl nit over about 500 hands. one of my notes on him is "didnt 3bet QQ"</font>

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $36.55
CO: $14.38
Hero: $85.5
SB: $59.07
BB: $48.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $4.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $47.75</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $47.75 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $63.50

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Sometimes the worst hand wins ... and doesn't a 5% preflop raise percentage include AA,KK,QQ,AK?

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yes, but his (min)3betting range will be a lot &lt; 5% and his 5bet shoving range will be AA. i dont know what he does w/ KK here, but i still only have 22% equity vs KK+

[/ QUOTE ]

But given your read, 4-betting is really bad, unless you think his min-3-bet means all kinds of [censored]. But given what you said above, you think his min-3b range is tight, which means, if he doesn't RR QQ, there's no advantage to 4-betting, especially if he shoves AK.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

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Bubaloo Therom: Folding K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] preflop for 100bbs is acceptable vs the nittyest of nits.

Reads:<font color="blue">Villain is standard 15/5/0.7 50nl nit over about 500 hands. one of my notes on him is "didnt 3bet QQ"</font>

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $36.55
CO: $14.38
Hero: $85.5
SB: $59.07
BB: $48.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $4.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $47.75</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $47.75 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $63.50

[/ QUOTE ]

Sometimes the worst hand wins ... and doesn't a 5% preflop raise percentage include AA,KK,QQ,AK?

[/ QUOTE ]

yes, but his (min)3betting range will be a lot &lt; 5% and his 5bet shoving range will be AA. i dont know what he does w/ KK here, but i still only have 22% equity vs KK+

[/ QUOTE ]

But given your read, 4-betting is really bad, unless you think his min-3-bet means all kinds of [censored]. But given what you said above, you think his min-3b range is tight, which means, if he doesn't RR QQ, there's no advantage to 4-betting, especially if he shoves AK.

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yep true.
i only had the QQ read, so i didnt know how he plays AK (tbh tho he probably plays it the same) also, there is a chance that this min 3bet was a misclick.... unlikely tho, so yeah, CC the 3bet would be better in hindsight.
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