** Official June Chat Thread: The Flush **

[Phresh]

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Phresh what adjustments did you need to make for 2/4

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It wasn't so much that I had to make adjustments, it's that I THOUGHT I had to make adjustments, so I overadjusted terribly and started playing very bad. I was RR with like, every other hand from Button if CO raised. I was RR OOP super often when CO/Button raised. I'd raise a limper with way too wide of a range and CB every flop. Basically autopiloting an insanely aggressive and spewy style. So I had to readjust and come down a bit on the aggressive scale and start playing good poker. Now I feel I am by far playing my best and I'm actually enjoying poker again.

The biggest difference I noticed in 1/2 and 2/4 is that 2/4 has much more regulars and nitty players than 1/2. For the most part, the regulars at 1/2 are MUCH worse than the 2/4 regulars. Once you adjust properly and grow as a player, you can easily beat the 2/4 regulars, though.


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Why are people trash talking you? you had the best winrate at 1/2 posted that Ive seen.

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What was his W/R and how many hands?

[diebitter]

Phresh, are you single tabling or multitabling?

[LearningCurve]

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I think I might try playing 12 tables at Stars and maybe a half dozen or so at FTP.

I tried datamining a dozen tables at FTP while 12-tabling Stars tonight and my system didn't even burp. So from a technical standpoint it should be possible.

I'd really like to see how many I can actually handle...

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[Kos13]

Full Tilt is apparently not interested in convincing me it's not rigged. This fish is playing half the hands (all of them poorly), and then this...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($125.75)
MP1 ($235)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $40</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $132.75 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $81.75.

Turn: ($257.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($257.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $257.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6d 6c (full house, sixes full of tens).
MP1 has Tc Td (four tens).
Outcome: MP1 wins $257.50.</font>

[futuredoc85]

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Full Tilt is apparently not interested in convincing me it's not rigged. This fish is playing half the hands (all of them poorly), and then this...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($125.75)
MP1 ($235)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $40</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $132.75 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $81.75.

Turn: ($257.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($257.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $257.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6d 6c (full house, sixes full of tens).
MP1 has Tc Td (four tens).
Outcome: MP1 wins $257.50.</font>

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take solace in the fact that villain wasted a 1 outer!

[SABR42]

Anytime I have a lousy session, I log on to Full Tilt and play some HU. Works EVERYTIME.

Standard KK:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
Hero (BB): $104.05
SB: $110.55
Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, SB calls $8.00
Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, SB calls $15.00
Turn: ($52) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $84.55</font>, Hero calls all-in for $48.05
Uncalled bet of $6.50 returned to SB
River: ($208.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)
Pot Size: $208.10 ($0.50 Rake)
SB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$104.05)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON (+$103.55)

AK all-in pre-flop. Standard again:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
Hero (BB): $168.20
SB: $99.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $99.00</font>, Hero calls $88.00
Flop: ($198) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)
Turn: ($198) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)
River: ($198) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)
Pot Size: $198.00 ($0.50 Rake)
SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$99.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON (+$98.50)

LOL nice slowplay. And I love the fake blocking bet on the river. Too bad I hit the flush on him:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
BB: $95.50
Hero (SB): $112.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, BB calls $2.00
Flop: ($6) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00
Turn: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.00</font>, BB calls $13.00
River: ($44) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $73.50</font>, Hero calls $38.50
Pot Size: $191.00 ($0.50 Rake)
BB had 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ([2c 3c] three of a kind, Threes) and LOST (-$95.50)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and WON (+$95.00)

Standard KK again. A bit of a cooler for him:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
Hero (BB): $237.40
SB: $102.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, SB calls $6.00
Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $228.40</font>, SB calls all-in for $63.50
Uncalled bet of $134.90 returned to Hero
Turn: ($205) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)
River: ($205) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)
Pot Size: $205.00 ($0.50 Rake)
SB had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$102.50)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$102.00)

I turn the nuts:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
Hero (BB): $345.80
SB: $109.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.00</font>, SB calls $6.00
Flop: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, SB calls $14.00
Turn: ($46) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $86.50</font>, Hero calls $56.50
River: ($219) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)
Pot Size: $219.00 ($0.50 Rake)
SB had 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$109.50)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Queen high) and WON (+$109.00)

This last one was like the 4th time I've stacked this guy. Almost felt bad for him. What a sick river card:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
BB: $95.40
Hero (SB): $457.50
Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, BB calls $2.00
Flop: ($6) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, BB calls $5.00
Turn: ($16) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00
River: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $75.40</font>, Hero calls $45.40
Pot Size: $190.80 ($0.50 Rake)
BB had 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ([5d 2d] a flush, King high) and LOST (-$95.40)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Kings) and WON (+$94.90)

[blunty31]

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Phresh what adjustments did you need to make for 2/4

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It wasn't so much that I had to make adjustments, it's that I THOUGHT I had to make adjustments, so I overadjusted terribly and started playing very bad. I was RR with like, every other hand from Button if CO raised. I was RR OOP super often when CO/Button raised. I'd raise a limper with way too wide of a range and CB every flop. Basically autopiloting an insanely aggressive and spewy style. So I had to readjust and come down a bit on the aggressive scale and start playing good poker. Now I feel I am by far playing my best and I'm actually enjoying poker again.

The biggest difference I noticed in 1/2 and 2/4 is that 2/4 has much more regulars and nitty players than 1/2. For the most part, the regulars at 1/2 are MUCH worse than the 2/4 regulars. Once you adjust properly and grow as a player, you can easily beat the 2/4 regulars, though.


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Why are people trash talking you? you had the best winrate at 1/2 posted that Ive seen.

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What was his W/R and how many hands?

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I made the EXACT same mistake as you when I moved to NL400, just got completely out of my game, started raising way to much, and putting everyone on bluffs.

[Klompy]

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post8923850

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wtf did I read that right? you beat 1/2nl for 9ptbb/100 over a fairly large sample?

[iponnet]

hey phresh can you tell us what you average in VPPs and FPPs playing NL600?

tx

[GrandMelon]

Phresh I believe his winrate was about 5 over 80 or 90k hands.