Curtains vs PoG - Page 120

fnord_too · #**1191** 01-10-2007, 03:26 PM

Stupid question: is Bd4 a bad move for curtains regardless of our move? I really am not good at analyzing postitions, but that does not look good for us.

adanthar · #**1192** 01-11-2007, 01:43 AM

...Kd6 is very bad, because Kf5 and then Bd4 = dead pawns. ...Ke6 is the only good alternative.

TimM · #**1193** 01-11-2007, 02:20 AM

40...Kd6 41.Bd4 g6 42.Be5+ Ke6 43.f4 looks drawish. If 43...f5+ 44.gxf5 gxf5 45.Kf3 will draw by playing g4, and sacrificing his bishop for our last pawn. The alternative is to allow white to play f5+ and that doesn't look any better.

If 40...Ke6 41.Bd4 g6 42.f4 looks similar.

I don't see any way to play for a win any more.

TimM · #**1194** 01-11-2007, 02:23 AM

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...Kd6 is very bad, because Kf5 and then Bd4 = dead pawns. ...Ke6 is the only good alternative.

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Bd4 hangs the bishop since we get to move Kd5 after Kf5. There is no time for white to get this bishop to the right diagonal.

chuckleslovakian · #**1195** 01-11-2007, 02:24 AM

Guess I can throw in offer draw on the next poll

TimM · #**1196** 01-11-2007, 02:29 AM

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Guess I can throw in offer draw on the next poll

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Right, the correct way would be to have a second poll for the draw offer. If we decide to offer one, it should be accompanied by a move, in case curtains wishes to decline.

fluorescenthippo · #**1197** 01-11-2007, 04:11 AM

this is gonna be a long game at this rate. we should nominate someone to move for us.

smilingbill · #**1198** 01-11-2007, 06:24 AM

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40...Kd6 41.Bd4 g6 42.Be5+ Ke6 43.f4 looks drawish. If 43...f5+ 44.gxf5 gxf5 45.Kf3 will draw by playing g4, and sacrificing his bishop for our last pawn. The alternative is to allow white to play f5+ and that doesn't look any better.

If 40...Ke6 41.Bd4 g6 42.f4 looks similar.

I don't see any way to play for a win any more.

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40.-Kd6 41.Bd4 g6 42.Be5+ Kc5 might be a way to play for a win, it certainly entails some risk, but since we have an "escape route" there with 42.-Ke6 we can delay the decision of taking the draw until then. 41.Kf5 Kd5 looks really terrible for White to me.

TimM · #**1199** 01-11-2007, 10:59 AM

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40.-Kd6 41.Bd4 g6 42.Be5+ Kc5 might be a way to play for a win, it certainly entails some risk

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Too risky I think, he has 43.Bb2 followed by Ke5, Kf6, etc.

smilingbill · #**1200** 01-11-2007, 12:10 PM

edited for having the king on f5 already in my mental calcs, oops

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