32K pot against Bld with 8 high? toughest decision I've ever had!

[LegallyBlind]

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WE NEED BLD TO TELL US WHAT HE HAD

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not really. we just need BLD to tell us if, on this hand, he would have called a river push with a set.

[BLdSWtTRs]

It would have been a tough decision. Samoleus is capable of any two cards, and is capable of playing them in any fashion. I can't give an honest answer whether i would have folded or called.

[fslexcduck]

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It would have been a tough decision. Samoleus is capable of any two cards, and is capable of playing them in any fashion. I can't give an honest answer whether i would have folded or called.

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are you implying you DIDN'T have 64 or 86?

[Rick305]

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It would have been a tough decision. Samoleus is capable of any two cards, and is capable of playing them in any fashion. I can't give an honest answer whether i would have folded or called.

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Did you have a set?

[blopp]

I love thise post sam.

1. With those stack would you still raise AA so little preflop? I know a too big raise isnt good (give away your hand). But can you really sell AA here? I have have no idea, if you have a standard raise you use on all hands. But raising AA 2,5bb after 2 limps... Even in position..

2. How do you think bld would bet weaker made hands on river (still valuebetting). Like 75 (limping to bust you) and A7 ("bluffing" turn).

If he still bet these hands strong on river, because you sometimes call light. I think its easier to bluff him. (You still represent the same hand with a push, but he would have a harder time calling here with 75 vs 55)

If this is nonsense.. Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Blopp

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I'm pretty sure BLd had 34 but I can't completely remember

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I'm pretty sure BLd had 34 but I can't completely remember

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Why would you be capable of remembering? Did he tell you what he had?

[LegallyBlind]

I think we can agree Bld would fould all hands<set and call with 43, this seems pretty standard. So, aren't we more interested to know if Bld would have folded a set on this hand if sam pushed the river?

and of course i mean any set lower than JJJ and AAA

[MDMA]

Blopp, he's either raising the same amount with all holdings, or he's capable of raising all different amounts with every holding. No good player on this level is ever gonna let any information slip through through their preflop betsizes, and most likely not through their betsizes on any other street as well (except for when they want to represent a certain holding/strength obviously, such as with river overbets representing air or nuts).

[samoleus]

Blopp, your answers:

1. I never vary my raise sizes based on hand strength. Position and number of players in the pot are the only factors that determine the size of my opening raise.

2. Good question. I think 7-5 may or may not check call the river. If he bets with 7-5 (probably 50% of the time in this spot), he will almost always fold to a raise. A-7 probably fires and folds to a raise. However, there is almost 0% chance that he plays the flop that way with A-7.