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03-18-2006, 12:50 AM
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Re: I just played some 25nl full ring on party
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Hmmm, well you asked for it... This is pretty much what I did. In reality I expected this post to be locked long before it even got to the level of bickering its become. I have to say that each post you make seems to be even more absurd in nature. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure I'll say some more absurd things, I'm used to people saying that what I say is absurd. [ QUOTE ] You've claimed at least twice now that you think 100ptbb/100 is possible at NL 25 and if you really thought so, woudln't you play there regularly? My math could be wrong but isn't 100ptbb/100 equal to $50 per 100 hands. You'd have to make 12.5ptbb/100 to to make that much at NL $200 correct? And I can't imagine that 12+ ptbb/100 is sustainable at NL $200. [/ QUOTE ] It is... but I can play more tables at NL200, so it is much more profitable. If you don't believe me, no offense, but I really don't care. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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#112
03-18-2006, 12:54 AM
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Re: Good LAG play & what you guys missed
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Pretty good post. But point 5) is way off, and really bad advice. [ QUOTE ] 5) I'm not folding to a re-raise. Why? Like the 86 hand you mentioned, this would be a really BAD fold. If I'm going to raise a hand like that OOP, and someone re-raises me in position, I have to call if I want to continue to apply the pressure to my opponents. If I fold, I'm saying - go ahead and come over the top of me and I'll fold. By calling, even if I don't like it, I'm continuing to keep them guessing because they have nearly NO idea what I'm calling with. If I happen to hit two pair on that flop or something, I'm likely stacking off against his over pair. [/ QUOTE ] You apply pressure by betting and raising, not by calling. Who is applying pressure in this spot? It's obviously the guy who is reraising, you calling is not applying pressure. He is making YOU hit a flop to continue in the hand. Initiative is huge in NL, and he is taking that away from you. You apply pressure by reraising, or you fold and wait for a better spot to put them to the test. If you fold a few times, players will start playing back at you light. That's exactly what you want from a lag style isn't it? LAG style in isolation is useless, you should use that image to tighten up and change gears. [/ QUOTE ] If I planned on changing gears, then your suggestion of folding would be correct. If however I plan to continue to raise, I need to call, even if the initiative is taken away in that particular hand. Now if I raise, and get re-raised again, and again, THEN it's time to change gears or use a new tactic. I'm not however going to just give up control after one re-raise. Does this make sense?
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#113
03-18-2006, 01:00 AM
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Re: Session from first table 4 Saiyen Part 2 CONVERTED
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This thread is ridiculous. Wow you ran hot playing a pretty standard game (with some donktastic, not LAG, plays thrown in) for ~100 hands and are now convinced that 25NL is beatable for 100ptBB/100. Thanks for your amazing contribution. I seriously doubt there isnt a decent SSNL player here who hasnt had a hot session and won 4-5 buyins in an hour or two, it doesnt mean that they are God's gift to the game, its just running hot. Get over yourself. [/ QUOTE ] When I played 25nl and played a TAG style, I've had session where I've won 4-5 buy-ins in an hour. And this is when I pretty much sucked at the game. I would assume a lot of people have. If you think I'm trying to say that I'm the greatest player ever, or anything to that degree, you haven't really given an ounce of thought to this post. I hope you give more thought to your game while your at the table, then the response you gave here.
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#115
03-18-2006, 01:15 AM
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Re: Session from first table 4 Saiyen Part 2 CONVERTED
wait, i just want to make sure. the op's point is that the lowest possible limit on party poker is easy to beat? what a [censored] revelation.
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#116
03-18-2006, 01:16 AM
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Re: Session from first table 4 Saiyen Part 2 CONVERTED
wasn't there some guy in the high stakes forum who claimed to have made some ridiculous amount of money playing 2000NL playing a LAG style? This reminded me of that somewhat.
I really hope a lot of people take FreakDaddy's advice to heart and try to imitate his proposed style in hopes of a 100BB/100 winrate (even if I'm only half as good as implementing this as Freakdaddy, i could still quadruple my winrate). It would certainly make these boards more interesting . . .
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#117
03-18-2006, 01:51 AM
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Re: Session from first table 4 Saiyen Part 2 CONVERTED
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When I played 25nl and played a TAG style, I've had session where I've won 4-5 buy-ins in an hour. And this is when I pretty much sucked at the game. I would assume a lot of people have. If you think I'm trying to say that I'm the greatest player ever, or anything to that degree, you haven't really given an ounce of thought to this post. I hope you give more thought to your game while your at the table, then the response you gave here. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the tip about applying thought to the game when I'm at the table, I'll take that valuable advice away and use it. My post was questioning the value of this thread, and your intentions in starting it. You seemed to be blowing your own horn, as if you have some amazing knowlege to impart, then just post hands showing a style not that different from that used by a lot of succesful posters in this forum, and definitely nothing groundbreaking. It's not exactly news that by playing more agressively someone can crush a 25NL game, so unless this was intended to encourage the absolute newest posters in SSNL then it just comes across as a shameless, arrogant brag post with little value.
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#118
03-18-2006, 03:10 AM
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Re: I just played some 25nl full ring on party
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[ QUOTE ] All I know is that its hard to tell who is a newbie when the person with all the posts keeps claiming that 100PTBB/100 is sustainable when no one has ever shown they can do 1/4 of that over any substantial hands...and by substantial, I mean significantly more than a 130 hand session. [/ QUOTE ] I think 25PTBB/100 is sustainable at 25nl 6max for an experienced player. From Feb 1st to now I'm running at 22PTBB/100 after 7231hands running 2 tables at a time. I'm far from the best player on these boards and I'm sure others would be far more successful if they dropped down and tried. 100PTBB/100 is another thing... I don't think that is possible at all. 2 tabling that's about 45min and there's no way you can stack someone every 25minutes to sustain that kind of winrate. [/ QUOTE ] I said a reasonable sample size...post your stats (I want a PT screenshot), when you have 50k hands, and we'll talk. BTW, I think 20PTBB is probably about the max for someone, although someone capable of that is not staying long enough at NL25 to find out.
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#119
03-18-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: I just played some 25nl full ring on party
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[ QUOTE ] Hmmm, well you asked for it... This is pretty much what I did. In reality I expected this post to be locked long before it even got to the level of bickering its become. I have to say that each post you make seems to be even more absurd in nature. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure I'll say some more absurd things, I'm used to people saying that what I say is absurd. [ QUOTE ] You've claimed at least twice now that you think 100ptbb/100 is possible at NL 25 and if you really thought so, woudln't you play there regularly? My math could be wrong but isn't 100ptbb/100 equal to $50 per 100 hands. You'd have to make 12.5ptbb/100 to to make that much at NL $200 correct? And I can't imagine that 12+ ptbb/100 is sustainable at NL $200. [/ QUOTE ] It is... but I can play more tables at NL200, so it is much more profitable. If you don't believe me, no offense, but I really don't care. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] well, I guess that's all there is to it. We can all just start making posts on whatever we want...then just say we are not interested in proving it, but we are sure its right. I know its possible for me to jump from here, all the way to the moon, without using anything but my legs...but, I will live longer if I dont...so I'm not going to do it. But I could, and so could others, that are as cool as me. They just haven't, and won't.
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#120
03-18-2006, 10:52 AM
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Re: Session from first table 4 Saiyen Part 2 CONVERTED
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If you think I'm trying to say that I'm the greatest player ever, or anything to that degree, you haven't really given an ounce of thought to this post. [/ QUOTE ] It is you who has not given an ounce of thought to your post. Your post is a brag post, and is basically utterly pointless. Furthermore you've tried at GREAT length to defend your position and make out you're some kind of expert player who does better at 200NL than you can at 50NL (where you believe 50PTBB/h is sustainable). You are psychologically a mess if you cannot see why this thread and your comments in it are a complete and utter joke. I'm really almost convinced this is just a troll thread with you having a good laugh at our expense.
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