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#111
11-09-2005, 03:03 AM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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And don't doubt the amount of money that humans will give to charity uncoerced. See the relief efforts for the Tsunami and Katrina for examples. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there's a difference between giving money for a one-time biblical-type hurricane/flood and giving to the myriad of charities that would need to exist to provide for those who fall through the cracks often enough to keep them out of 3rd world-type poverty, right? |
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11-09-2005, 03:19 AM
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"More efficient" is objective. "Better" is subjective. That's just one of many ways statism causes problems - imposing someone else's definition of "better" onto everyone. [/ QUOTE ] It has been made clear, to me, time and again, that your beef is with the existence and application of laws, in general. I understand that you would be OK with "laws" that are adopted and followed only by those who believe in them and instigate them - and by no one else. However, even in the purest and most ideliased form of Athenian-style democracy, these would not be laws, really, but, rather, something akin to private club rules. Your beef is with the rule of majority, mostly. In anything. Close enough? |
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#113
11-09-2005, 04:34 AM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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[ QUOTE ] And don't doubt the amount of money that humans will give to charity uncoerced. See the relief efforts for the Tsunami and Katrina for examples. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize there's a difference between giving money for a one-time biblical-type hurricane/flood and giving to the myriad of charities that would need to exist to provide for those who fall through the cracks often enough to keep them out of 3rd world-type poverty, right? [/ QUOTE ] What's the difference? And why does it matter? Spell it out and I'll argue. But your assertion is really ephemeral, and I really don't know where you are going with this. Will |
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#114
11-09-2005, 05:40 AM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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What's the difference? [/ QUOTE ] One involves obvious human suffering but is limited to a specific incident which happens very infrequently. In the other, yearly giving would have to remain relatively reliable. If the country slumps into a recession (or even a depression) for whatever reason, those dependent on charity will clearly suffer and there will be no back-up. "Sorry guys, we only have enough money to prosecute 50% of the cases. Tough luck." |
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#116
11-09-2005, 03:27 PM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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If you are paid with taxpayer dollars, money that has been confiscated from individuals who could have used it to send their kids to a better school, take their family on a vacation, buy a new car, invest for their retirement, or blow on coke and hookers, it is immoral, in my humble opinion. [/ QUOTE ] Does that make it wrong for me to accept/treat Medicare patients? (well over half my practice) |
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11-09-2005, 04:02 PM
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Re: Peggy Sue
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It has been made clear, to me, time and again, that your beef is with the existence and application of laws, in general. I understand that you would be OK with "laws" that are adopted and followed only by those who believe in them and instigate them - and by no one else. [/ QUOTE ] You don't understand at all. I don't give exemptions to someone that doesn't "believe" that stealing or murder is a crime. [ QUOTE ] Your beef is with the rule of majority, mostly. In anything. [/ QUOTE ] Not exactly. My beef is with the use of force to compel people to do things. It just happens that often the "will of the majority" is used to justify such action, as if a gang becomes legitimate because it grows past a certain size. |
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#118
11-09-2005, 05:03 PM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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I don't want to hear about private interstates, but I know who is the big innocent loser in an anarchocapitalist society. The children of bad parents who have no government in place to secure them food, school, healthcare etc. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, and tough [censored] for them. Life's not fair, and any attempt to make it fair is a step toward Harrison Bergeron. In a free society, [censored] happens. That's the downside of freedom. Let people fail from their own mistakes; it's the only way we'll make progress. |
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#119
11-09-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
Free-market capitalism requires contractual obligations to be enforced by some disinterested 3rd party that has the power to compel compliance. That 3rd party is government.
"Anarcho-capitalist" is a self-contradictory concept. |
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#120
11-09-2005, 06:39 PM
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Re: Looking for fellow anarchocapitalists.
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Free-market capitalism requires contractual obligations to be enforced by some disinterested 3rd party that has the power to compel compliance. That 3rd party is government. "Anarcho-capitalist" is a self-contradictory concept. [/ QUOTE ] I'm still with the argument that it is impossible to have anything other than Aracho-capitalism. Where people form their own gangs (governments) to make the rules they want and enforce things. |
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