The Well: ama0330

[china_hard]

Where in London do you live?

Nice advice for all the players here so far by the way.

[ama0330]

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maybe i'll get this in under the wire:

in limit seat selection=game selection. you find the guy who's money you want and sit to his left.

there's also the handy little shorthand of looking at stack sizes. absurdly large or small stacks tend to equal bad players worthy of targeting.

In nl, i've noticed that people tend to jump tables when they bust, and stack sizes are obv more fluid than in limit.

so the question is, in nl do you revert to game selection (avoiding good players) as opposed to seat selection (targeting bad players before sitting down). are there any shorthanded non hud techniques, or am i going to need hands on dudes? what compels you to sit? what compels you to get up? how aggressively to do you seat select or table select?

thx!

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I table select "sort of". Stats can be really deceiving, you'll have some guy with 22/16 stats and they are just hopeless. I keep a sort of "reverse buddy list" where I'll look out for people who are a real pain in the ass and just avoid them. FWIW there are only 2 non 2p2 people on that list. I generally avoid 2p2'ers just because its high variance to play against them and its easier to take someone elses money.

Generally I just sit at random tables and if there is someone giving me real trouble then I'll move. I usually choose my tables based on average pot size, the bigger the better.

[ama0330]

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I feel that value betting the river is something that isn't covered enough in uNL. I'd be tempted to say it's where a lot of uNLers lose the most money (but it's hard to quantify this objectively).

That said, will you find some hands that you value bet the river with less than the nutz and got a call by a weaker hand? Also, comment on each street and then give some general comments.

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Im at work so no hands atm but I am much better at betting the river these days, even if you think you have a hand that may be beat, its often better to bet. River AF is really important.

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I am a bit of a nit when 3betting and tend to call a lot b/c I just like to see a flop, should I open up my 3betting range or leave that untill I move up to SSNL.

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Its a question of comfort. It sounds like you are not ready to open up yet because opening up leaves you exposed to some seriously dodgy flop/turn spots. Try adding one or two hands to your 3bet range and see how you like it, or every now and then 3bet on the button and see what happens. Remember if you are confused or unsure when you 3bet preflop it is much much better to just fold the flop than to spew off more money because you are lost. People have this I AINT FOLDING mentality, really just fold!! Nobody knows who you are!!

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I don't really think this is the problem because when I play live I tend to 3bet a fair amount. Online though I just tend to call with hands like KQ, especially OOP.

Also, what mods, AHK's etc do you use when playing on party? I should be playing there soon. And how do you feel about no RB (assuming you had it before)?

[ama0330]

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I think I'm a lot better than most at playing OOP and handling the very thin situations that arise. I'm good at getting away early if I can see that the hand is headed for trouble.

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Could you give an example of these situations (a hand history if possible)?

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For example.. I raise JTs and get called on the button. Flop comes T84 2 tone, no flush for me, I lead to protect against the FD and he raises me. Well here many people will say (correctly) that you have the best hand so call/push, but in reality you are much more likely to be facing two more cards and much more betting, and actually your hand doesn't do too well against his range at the river so its much better to dump it. Where I just lose a PFR and standard cbet, others will lose half a stack getting outdrawn or just finding out they were toast on the flop anyway.

[ama0330]

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Which poker books have you read and which did you find to be the most helpfull for you 1) as a poker player in general and 2) As a NL cash player.

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Wow I have so many books and SO many printed pages from 2p2 and the net in general about poker. I'll take a photo of my "poker shelf" when I get home.

The book that helped me most was Harrington on Hold'em because it taught me to play tight and solid which is the crucial foundation that you need to be a good player.

[ama0330]

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Where in London do you live?

Nice advice for all the players here so far by the way.

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Im in South London, not far from Balham.

[ama0330]

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what mods, AHK's etc do you use when playing on party? I should be playing there soon. And how do you feel about no RB (assuming you had it before)?

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I use betpot and I couldnt live without it. I use pahud also. You know it is really embarrasing and really sad but I have never had rakeback. I went to hell and back trying to get it for Party and failed, and I can't be arsed with making fake neteller accounts and all that dodgy stuff. So atm I play party with points only.

As I move up in limits this is going to become a real issue in terms of real life money so I am going to look into it.

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South london? Ohh close, but not so close

[china_hard]

So you are quite in the ghetto. I'm a Bromley boy but have family in Clapham and Stretham, which is near you.

How much time do you put in playing? How much do you put into 2+2 or other study? Are you on here all the time you're at work?