Wynn Poker room BS

[Salmo Trutta]

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Furthermore, I know for a fact that Steve Wynn seriously considered closing The Mirage Pokerroom before Belagio opened, and almost didn't allow poker in The Bellagio. So I don't suspect he'll be real impressed with your blog entries.

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Good point. Yeah, I'll bet Steve Wynn is shaking in his boots over the threat of a negative internet post by a BLOGGER.

[CanIPlayII]

I have also been told that my table was having too good a time and keep it down. It was a Rockin 15-30 game at Wynn where the table was having a blast and we were told that the Hoodie guys at 1-2 NL could not concentrate. I had more on the table than the entire 1-2 game. We were taking shots at 6 in the morning, 3 bet every flop and tipping a redbird for every pot. It was just 10 people having a good time. The best game I ever played in.
Maverick; Next time just say sure we will keep it down and proceed with debauchery. That way the floor has said it to keep the Nits happy. I don't think a private conversation with the floor has ever worked.
**TT** this was the weekend you played 26? straight hours at 15-30 at the Wynn.

[Max Raker]

I have had a similar situation at the Wynn. After a big score at 25 50 some friends of mine who played low stakes showed up and I decided to get drunk and play 1 2 or 2 5. I had too much to drink and was being loud, but nothing mean and the people at my table where having fun (of course they had financial interest in seeing me stay) and I even told the people around me to tell me to shut up if it got annoying. Nobody said anything and people at the other tables even ordered some shots for me to thank me for the entertainment. All of a sudden the manager (it wasn't the same person you delt with) told me I had to leave. I asked why and he said people were mad about the noise. I said fine and left and told him to cash out for me. When he came out to give me my cash I asked him who got mad. He said the 25 50 game that i left was pissed and that there were some high roller regulars (i guess they played craps as well) that they couldn't piss off and they were mad that I was having a good time donking off their money at 1 2. At the time I got pissed and told him it was a BS reason and I should have gotten a warning first. I still agree.

[AceMason]

op you got what you deserved

[MicroBob]

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All of a sudden the manager (it wasn't the same person you delt with) told me I had to leave. I asked why and he said people were mad about the noise. I said fine and left and told him to cash out for me.

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That I agree is over-the-top.
Very appropriate to give a warning or three first.

If you had just said, "look, I know I was loud. I'll keep it down from now on, okay?" then maybe he would have let you stay (then again, maybe not).


I also agree with the previous poster who said to just apologize, promise to keep it down, and turn the page.
Even if your volume gets way up there again there's a pretty good chance that they'll just come by and tell you AGAIN, "Guys, you REALLY do need to keep it down" (although it sounds like this Kathleen person might have a quicker trigger to boot you out of there even after only one warning).


I played 4/8 at Bellagio with a ridicu-drunk-ulcious donk who didn't know the hand-rankings, never knew how much to bet (kept trying to bet odd numbers like 7 and 13 and 19 for some reason), and couldn't really see his own cards and would pick them up and stare at them again for about 30 seconds EVERY time the betting got back to him usually shouting, "Wait! WTF is that?!! How much?!! Okay?!!"

He also had a mountain of chips as every 73o would come through for him on the river.
Couple times he was trying to fold but turned his hand up for the table to see after he was about to muck face-down, and the dealer would tell him that he had the winning straight or flush or whatever.
Hilarious stuff.

He was an Australian who had just arrived in LV for the first time in his life and was playing all night (it was now 6 or 7am).

But he was loud and nuts. Floor must have warned him 10 times in 2 hours that he needed to keep it down.
He kept apologizing and getting 2nd chances.
Finally after his 2nd spilled beer and more yelling they asked him to leave.
He couldn't even walk even with the help of his friend and he fell on top of an empty table on his way out.

IMO, if you are not confrontational about it and just apologize and promise to behave better there are many floor-people who will practically let you get away with murder and let you keep playing. (again though, not sure if Kathleen or the Wynn in general would have tolerated a guy like this for as long as Bellagio did).

[MaverickUSC]

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Most people in casinos are tourists. It is a cherished, short vacation for them. Why should you be allowed to irritate them or the casino employees just because you are still on the south side of maturation?

Your very question demonstrates that you are so self-centered and unaware of the world that you really do not understand that teenage cuteness should be in your past.

An abusive, self obsessed, loud drunk that thinks he is funny is not a rarity in a gambling house. You really believe that you are so much more important than everybody there?

In the early days, we always dressed up to a degree..sports coats and slacks, to play poker as a sign of respect for the house man and the game. The good, steady winners dressed better and acted better. The absolute cardinal rule of poker games is do not piss off the losers. Casino poker is a social event, ten people seated in a tight circle.

Mr. Mamuth is right that the poker players have an obligation to the game and that starts with courtesy to the casino workers. Their's is a hard job. Can you imagine the moron, original poster saying he was in an outlaw illegal poker game anywhere and acted that way? What would happen to him? The original poster is the kind of a guy that could give gambling a bad name.

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A) There were eight players besides my brother and I who were also having a fantastic time and getting pissed at her as well. I pulled her aside to talk about the lack of a problem rather than having it turn into a yelling match, which it was between her and another player at the table.

B) No, I don't believe that I'm more important, but she told us that we are less important and thus she didn't care.

C) Duh... but we were playing entertainment poker, not work poker, and it was very social event.

D) What ever happened to casino workers having respect for their customers?

That is the whole point and why I am so pissed. Obviously I was a drunken idiot but she treated all ten of us very poorly, and instead of getting into a pissing contest I pulled her aside and spoke with her privately to try and diffuse the situation first.

As for security, There's always at least one security person in the hall in front of the room and usually one in front of the ferrari dealership as well. They were just kind of there in the background, not escorting me out per se. I went to the cage, cashed out, dropped $ off at box, and then hung out in front of the room for five minutes before finally leaving.

Devo

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I would have stood up and clapped as you were being escorted out.

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douche.

[7n7]

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and instead of getting into a pissing contest I pulled her aside and spoke with her privately to try and diffuse the situation first.


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Has this ever worked for anybody when extremely drunk and dealing with casino personnel?

Not in my experience, nor the experiences I've heard of others.

Sober authority figures usually don't listen to the drunk, but the drunk never seems to figure that out until the next morning.

Go have a chat with her now that you're "clean and sober". Apologize for being loud but explain that you felt the words she used were a little un-professional. No major harm, no foul.

Then continue beating up on the high-rollers in the Wynn tank assuming they're good games.

[Max Raker]

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All of a sudden the manager (it wasn't the same person you delt with) told me I had to leave. I asked why and he said people were mad about the noise. I said fine and left and told him to cash out for me.

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That I agree is over-the-top.
Very appropriate to give a warning or three first.

If you had just said, "look, I know I was loud. I'll keep it down from now on, okay?" then maybe he would have let you stay (then again, maybe not).


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Yeah. When he told me to leave I accepted his decision because I was drunk and often times you are being worse than you think you are. The part that pissed me off was that I was being kicked out becauase of some douche high rollers. I play decently high stakes poker but I've never played a pit game for more than a few grand. The dudes that wanted me out have probably lost 6 figures in a day at the pit. Despite their financial interest it would have been nice if the poker room had my back.

[Clarkmeister]

Katherine is one of the worst floorpeople I've ever seen and has no business dealing directly with customers.

This is typical of her going out of her way to create issues where none exist. Seen it happen several times before.

I've actually written about this to the room Director, but alas got no response (as is typical).

Katherine should not have a job in that capacity.