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Old 08-18-2006, 10:46 PM
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I woudl reccomend always being as focused as possible when playing and only paly 3-4 tables at a time.

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I've stuggled with this myself. Assuming two players, a 3-4 tabler anda 9-12 tabler. Both still have lots of room to improve. Say they can beat the 400NL for a solid amount.

If they both spend the same amount of time away from the tables studying, wouldn't the 9-12 tabler have an advantage getting many more hands/hr and seeing more situations? I understand the 3-4 tabler will make more optimal +EV decisions in a session, but if both players come up with the same conclusion with how to play a hand away from the table, is there a reason not to play as many tables as you can handle? Would playing 9 tables really stunt the growth of the poker player as long as he spends a lot of time reviewing his own session and coming up with the most optimal lines away from the table, and not necessarily while playing?

I'm really considering just playing 3-4 tables now. I was just hoping you could expand on your thoughts a little and tell how much you think players are hurting themselves by playing too many tables.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:47 PM
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hey aba, good thread you are inspiring me to stop playing sloppy and give it my best go to get up to 100/200 with you. how much PLO do you play and what stakes are you starting at? how can you justify playing PLO and making $50 an hour or $200 an hour when you could make so much more at NL? sure someday you can maybe make the same, or even make moremoney at PLO but that is probably months off.

what's your winrate? full tables, 6 max tables, HU?

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I started at 10/20 and 5/10 about 3 months ago but haven't played much until the past few weeks. Now I am playing 25/50 at stars up to 100/200 at tilt. I think 100/200 is alittle big for me now with my plo skill level so I may take a month off that game. PLO has huge swings and tons of variance. 10 BI swings are much more common in PLO since it is hard to get yoru money in with more than a 60/40 edge. I am trying to learn all forms of poker. I eventally want to play in the "big game" so I want to be comfortable with all games. I know that I do much better at big bet poker games than limit games. Also big NL games are not always running and being able to play big Omaha games is a good balance, so there are always games avaiable. I am willing to sacrafice some edge now to learn other forms of poker. My winrate in PLO isn't to great (2/bb/100 over 12K hands) but I feel that there is tons of room for me to improve as I have a very elementary concept of the game.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:48 PM
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I play poker on a Mac. PokerTracker is not supported for Mac, so I am unable to use this or any other HUD program. Do you think it's detrimental to an online player's success to not be able to use these programs? Would you highly recommend doing whatever it takes to play on a PC instead so I can take advantage of these programs?

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No I use my HUD less and less, but not having pokertracker is just unaccpetable. Pokertracker is an amazing program that every serous poker player has to have.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:50 PM
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aba,

"I feel that with 1000 dollars I could be playing 50/100 NL in 4 weeks with 200K"

How confident are you in this statement?

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I feel confident, but I don't want to get in some prop bet unless it was very lucrative if I suceeded. So bassically I am not going to be backing up what I am saying. Also don't get me wrong it would not be easy. I figure you would have to play 30 days straigh of 3K+ hands a day. It would be very very challenging, I just feel that it could be done.
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Old 08-18-2006, 10:58 PM
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aba,

can u please tell us some bellagio gossip from when u were there owning it up? or any other anecdotes from the trip


what is ur setup?
do u use pokeraces HUD?

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I really can't think of anything off the top of my head. Next time I go to vegas I will make sure to inquire about the latest gossip and I will report back to you.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:00 PM
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is it weird having a 30' then a 24'. the height must be different or are u used to it? would prolly bother me. dual 30's [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:01 PM
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aba20,

many thanks for doing this--we really appreciate it when superstars such as yourself and El D spare some of your time on helping us out.


1. What is the most important thing you've learned related to poker in the last month? 3 months? 6 months? year?

2. Is there anything you 'learned' about poker that you had to work hard to unlearn?

3. Do you coach?

4. How do you feel about shortstackers?

again, thanks

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I would say learning how to be emotionally balanced and not tilt is very important. Also don't get caught up in your short term results.

not really, small stuff I guess like don't overvalue KTo type hands.

Yes I am currently staking/coaching someone now. He has moved up from 50NL to 400NL in the past 2 months and is having alot of sucess.

A good shortstacker is a real pain for me. I really dislike them but to each his own.
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:04 PM
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First off, thank you Aba. I don't think you or Diablo realize how helpful and encouraging it is to have high stakes players spend a little time down here and share their insights and stories. I don't really have any important questions, but I your input did sway me to sign up for CRers, so I threw a referral your way. Make sure to buy something nice with the $20 or whatever [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .

I am a longtime PLO player who is just starting NL.
1) What was the hardest thing for you transitioning to PLO as an established HE player?
2) What's your favorite PLO starting hand?
3) What PLO games are you currenly playing?

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1) learning that aces are not that good in plo

2) 89TJ double suited

3) stars 25/50, UB 50/100 and fulltilt 50/100 and 100/200
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:05 PM
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You mentioned that you consider concentrating to be very important. Do you have any tips on how to stay focused? Do you play with an instant messager open or while browsing 2+2?
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Old 08-18-2006, 11:06 PM
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I think this is an interesting question, and I feel that with 1000 dollars I could be playing 50/100 NL in 4 weeks with 200K. This would be very ambitous and require alot of poker everyday (probably 3K+ hands a day). But I still think it could be done.

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This seems incredible to me. Given your entire bankroll to work with, how much would you estimate you could make in one year if you were entirely focused on maximizing your earn for that year?

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You can make alot of money playing online poker. But remeber that is 4 weeks of playing everyday for 3-4K hands a day. That is probably not sustainable for very long. I think playing the amount I do 5 mil is very attainable, but only time will tell.
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