Comment on Greenstein Rating

[stud7champ]

Thanks Mason
If you do not already know I look up to both you and sklansky. Great to see him recently get a great win.
Tend to agree with your comment on the timing. I think a top pros book will sell well at least initially.The guys that are going to be squeezed are the ones in the middle. So so books with out famous brand name recognition. I still think Raymers performance was better than Harringtons to get down to last 20 odd in year 2 with a record field was phonominal. Also he went out on some bad beats. when he brings out his book its going to b a best seller

[stud7champ]

I consdier all the books except the first two to be recent and covered in my "in the past" i will certainly consider buying the pychology of poker books

[trdi]

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Hi trdi:

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Phill Hellmuth is a terrible poker author. But if he writes another book tomorrow, he will sell enough to be profitable for him (considering time and ideas he invested in the book ).

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I disagree. If it;s at the same quality as his other books, it will flop just like his books 2 and 3 are flopping.


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I agree to some extent, yes. But I still believe it would be profitable for him, however I'm not an expert here so I can't know how many books would need to be sold to actually make a profit for the author. For paying at least 3 times the hours he invested in the making of the book for instance. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But you would probably agree, if I say that first book of every world class player would make a nice profit no matter how good it is. The numbers of HOH Vol.2 speak about the quality of both books.

[Mason Malmuth]

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But you would probably agree, if I say that first book of every world class player would make a nice profit no matter how good it is.

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Johnny Chan
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MM

[trdi]

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] You got me there. I don't even know anyone who would have read it. Probably you did... (?)

[Matt Ruff]

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Then there are several sections that do not concern poker strategy or tactics, but should make you a better poker player if you take them seriously. Barry describes certain characteristics that are helpful for a poker player -- stuff like not pounding your fists or yelling while watching a sporting event, not getting mad when someone cuts you off in traffic...

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There's a commercial that used to run, I think during the WPT broadcasts on the Travel Channel, where the CEO of Harrah's would come on and offer many of the same platitudes that you are citing as "next level" advice: e.g., don't play when you're upset, don't play when you're tired or drunk, don't gamble the rent money...

All that stuff's true, and good advice, but it's also common sense, and if that's all Barry's book had to offer, I for one would have felt cheated.

As for the material on play strategy, there were some interesting nuggets there, but it was too scattered and disorganized to be very useful. I liked the hand examples but wanted more of them.

I think the real selling point of the book is that it's a chance to hear a high-stakes player dishing about the poker culture. And it's very pretty.

-- M. Ruff

[Matt Ruff]

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I have considered making a book with only hand examples, but it would be a lot of work for not that large an audience.

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Check out "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess" sometime (now in its billionth printing). I think a poker book in the same format could be very popular.

-- M. Ruff

[Oluwafemi]

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One of Phil's training techniques is to play low limit and try to win every hand. He feels it teaches him how to bluff more effectively. (When his book comes out, that should be interesting!)


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...that would be interesting.

[PrinceCharles]

Hi All

First of all, I would just like to say what a nice guy Barry is....I played with him in the $2000 NLH and we had a brief chat. Also, what an excellent player, lots of moves without the moodies...

Anyway to the book....I bought and read the book whilst in Vegas. I personally found it quite useful in helping me 'naturally' focus on the right things for cash games. I would say the book is definitely an Advanced guide - not because the concepts are so complicated but because of the stuff a new or beginning player might find useful in it. Once you're totally comfortable about playing your cards and playing through the streets - then I feel this book will give you something extra to take you to the next level.

HRH

[MicroBob]

it's an advanced guide because of the stuff a beginning player would find useful???



should a book be described as a 'beginners' guide if only advanced players can gain value out of it?