**Official uNL Microbrew thread: Feb (LC thread)** - Page 118

jonyy6788 · #**1171** 02-24-2007, 10:07 PM

sucks....how's ur bankroll looking Charlie? I thought u were busto?

graph of last 2400 hands or so....wheeeeeeeeeeee

CharlieDontSurf · #**1172** 02-24-2007, 10:13 PM

Should I just be shoving these rivers? I keep thinking if Villians have a hand they'll re-raise me but maybe its cuz I've played on Tilt and everyone seems so damn passive on Stars.

don't look at how the hand played prior to river(this table was crazy weak tight. people were folding to even a .50 mini raise lol...
plus I'm barely paying attention as I watch TV and wait for my last 5 FPP before clearing $150 bonus.

My very last hand before clearing my bonus...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($36.05)
Hero ($50.80)
CO ($40.25)
Button ($25.70)
SB ($26.95)
BB ($72.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($2.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($3.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $4.50.

Final Pot: $15.75

Results in white below: 
UTG has 9h Qh (flush, queen high).
Hero has 3h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.75. 

Basically what I'm asking is with hands where we aren't showing a ton of aggression and thus can be assumed to be drawing or weak. If our hand hits on river should we shove with nuts? Or is Stars NL50 so passive they'd fold even a strong hand.

jonyy6788 · #**1173** 02-24-2007, 10:43 PM

Looks goot

Everlong · #**1174** 02-24-2007, 10:50 PM

I was in for $31
AAAARGGGHH wtf did I do last two hands ....

PokerStars Tournament #43327570, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $10.00/$1.00
1585 players
Total Prize Pool: $64770.00
Tournament started - 2007/02/24 - 16:00:00 (ET)

Dear Attilio,

You finished the tournament in 16th place.
A $375.67 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

You earned 200.13 tournament leader points in this tournament.
For information about our tournament leader board, see our web site at
http://www.pokerstars.com/tlb_tournament_rankings.html

Congratulations!
Thank you for participating.

Sean Fraley · #**1175** 02-24-2007, 11:03 PM

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Should I just be shoving these rivers? I keep thinking if Villians have a hand they'll re-raise me but maybe its cuz I've played on Tilt and everyone seems so damn passive on Stars.

don't look at how the hand played prior to river(this table was crazy weak tight. people were folding to even a .50 mini raise lol...
plus I'm barely paying attention as I watch TV and wait for my last 5 FPP before clearing $150 bonus.

My very last hand before clearing my bonus...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($36.05)
Hero ($50.80)
CO ($40.25)
Button ($25.70)
SB ($26.95)
BB ($72.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($2.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($3.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $4.50.

Final Pot: $15.75

Results in white below: 
UTG has 9h Qh (flush, queen high).
Hero has 3h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.75. 

Basically what I'm asking is with hands where we aren't showing a ton of aggression and thus can be assumed to be drawing or weak. If our hand hits on river should we shove with nuts? Or is Stars NL50 so passive they'd fold even a strong hand.

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I play Stars 10NL, so don't take this as gospel for 50NL.

At Stars, Anytime you get bet into on three streets an have the nuts on the river, shove it. Practically everytime I see someone bet the river when an obvious draw comes in, they aren't folding. They won't 3-bet without the nuts or close too it, but they sure as hell are going to pay to see that they're beat. Hell, just yesterday I had a guy bluff every street with a gutshot, and then call the last third of his stack in with his busted draw.

Gelford · #**1176** 02-25-2007, 12:09 AM

5 weeks until I will be able to play poker again !!!!!!!!

Can't [censored] wait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CharlieDontSurf · #**1177** 02-25-2007, 12:25 AM

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sucks....how's ur bankroll looking Charlie? I thought u were busto?

graph of last 2400 hands or so....wheeeeeeeeeeee

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I was.

Withdrew almost 95% of my money...left like $100 on FTP...grinded up to like $1000 at 50LN and 100NL...went on life tilt when i got screwed over with my job. Lost like $200 on bad beats...moved up to NL100 and lost more. then went to NL600 with the rest of my roll(like $378) and ran it up to like $1200 before losing it all getting coolered on two consequtive hands.

I had a little over $50 left on Stars from months ago....played NL50...just cleared my bonus so I have just under $1000 in my stars account for my BR.

I wish Stars had rakeback cuz its soooo much juicier than FTP. Only thing I can't stand is the [censored] retards who don't re-raise with AA and KK when I have QQ or JJ.

Probably stay at 50nl till my first paycheck then move up to 100NL and get coaching from a HSNL Im friends with so I can move up to NL200 by the summer.

LOL that Boat vs. Quads just totally stunned me. Luckily I had won a buy-in at that table a couple hands earlier so I didn't go on tilt.

haz31 · #**1178** 02-25-2007, 12:42 AM

The berating after the hand made it so much better too

PokerStars Game #8610602593: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/02/24 - 23:35:25 (ET)
Table 'Alsafi IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mustang1111 ($16.80 in chips)
Seat 2: dadududa ($23.85 in chips)
Seat 3: rounder2779 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 4: shakki ($20.05 in chips)
Seat 5: haz31 ($110 in chips)
Seat 6: TwinFives ($32.50 in chips)
dadududa: posts small blind $0.10
rounder2779: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to haz31 [5d 7d]
shakki: folds
haz31: raises $0.75 to $1
TwinFives: folds
mustang1111: folds
dadududa: folds
rounder2779: raises $1.25 to $2.25
haz31: calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [4s 8s 3d]
rounder2779: checks
haz31: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 8s 3d] [Ad]
rounder2779: bets $1
haz31: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [4s 8s 3d Ad] [2d]
rounder2779: bets $21.50 and is all-in
haz31: calls $21.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
rounder2779: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
haz31: shows [5d 7d] (a flush, Ace high)
haz31 collected $47.15 from pot
rounder2779 said, "u sick fk"

Lemniscate · #**1179** 02-25-2007, 12:58 AM

Jonyy--

I'm also at a Div III school, Macalester College. We've probably lost a football game to you at some point.

corsakh · #**1180** 02-25-2007, 01:12 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Should I just be shoving these rivers? I keep thinking if Villians have a hand they'll re-raise me but maybe its cuz I've played on Tilt and everyone seems so damn passive on Stars.

don't look at how the hand played prior to river(this table was crazy weak tight. people were folding to even a .50 mini raise lol...
plus I'm barely paying attention as I watch TV and wait for my last 5 FPP before clearing $150 bonus.

My very last hand before clearing my bonus...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($36.05)
Hero ($50.80)
CO ($40.25)
Button ($25.70)
SB ($26.95)
BB ($72.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($2.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($3.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $4.50.

Final Pot: $15.75

Results in white below: 
UTG has 9h Qh (flush, queen high).
Hero has 3h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.75. 

Basically what I'm asking is with hands where we aren't showing a ton of aggression and thus can be assumed to be drawing or weak. If our hand hits on river should we shove with nuts? Or is Stars NL50 so passive they'd fold even a strong hand.

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Dont 3level micros. I push the river every time I have any thing close to the nuts. Its so EV+ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] You need to be called like 1 in 9 times to right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]