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  #1161  
Old 01-01-2007, 02:09 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

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what's our response to 38. ... Kf8 39. Bc5+?

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You just slide the king to e8 and walk up the white squares. It semi-steals a tempo from us but we'd get it back when we move the knight and hit the bishop. Bottom line the fear of the check is not a reason to play f6, just march the king along to e8 and up....

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Yes, I wasn't worried about Bc5+.

38...Kf8 39.Bc5+ Ke8 40.Kf3 Nb3 and now if 41.Bb6 Kd7 42.Ke4 Kc6 43.Be3 Nc5+ 44.Kd4 Ne6+ 45.Kc4 b5+ 46.Kb4 Nc7 47.Bd4 Nd5+ 48.Kb3 g6 49.g5 Kd6 we have made some progress.

This won't all happen because he will probably play something other than 41.Bb6, but I just posted this line as an example of what we need to be aiming for: getting the king, knight and pawn all working together, rather than just trying to advance that pawn alone, when it is easily stopped.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:42 AM
CarpeDiem CarpeDiem is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

...Kf8 is obvious and good--kings are slow and lumbering pieces in endgames and need a long time to reach the battlefield. This early start is critical for our success.

...b5 is premature--a weak and valuable asset like that passed b-pawn deserves an escort--wait for the king to centralize.

why waste time w...g6 until we need to?
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:45 AM
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

Kf8
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:43 AM
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Curtains plays 38.Kg2

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2

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PoG
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:43 AM
chuckleslovakian chuckleslovakian is offline
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Note:Curtains king should be on g2 in that last pic
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

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Note:Curtains king should be on g2 in that last pic

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Yep that's right... and possibly he would have been happier if he'd played it to f1 intead. Time will tell....
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:20 PM
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PoG plays 38...Kf8

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2 Kf8

Curtains

PoG

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It is now Curtains turn
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:47 PM
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39. Kf3
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:58 PM
chuckleslovakian chuckleslovakian is offline
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Curtains plays 39.Kf3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1
37. Rxc1 Nxc1
38. Kg2 Kf8
39. Kf3

Curtains

PoG

It is now PoGs turn
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Old 01-03-2007, 03:38 PM
ScottHoward ScottHoward is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

i really cant see how we lose this game now.
of course,i have no idea how to win it either.
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