Curtains vs PoG

[WillMagic]

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let's improve the positin of our knight. to C3? or B4?

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our knight is actually in a fairly good position after b5

[TimM]

I'm trying to get Rc1 to work. We can play an ending where we centralize our King and force him to use his king to stop our passed b-pawn, at which time his kingside pawns will be vulnerable. With the rooks on it seems like he can stop this pawn too easily.

[clowntable]

I haven't played chess since I was 8 so I migh miss quite a bit.
We play Rc1 and he has to move the king towards the rook, we exchange rooks and we can outrace the king with the b pawnbecause we block the two black c fields with the knight and the white field will be blocked by the pawn itself so the king can never cross the c line.
I don't see any answer to c1 except for him taking our rook in which case we take his rook and have an open b line.

[TimM]

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so we're considering

Rc8
Rc1
Nc3
Nb4 (which I hate)
b5
f6

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36...Nc3 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Re7 b5 39.Rxf7 and a later Rb7 getting behind the pawn can't be stopped.
36...Nb4 is similar.

If we don't want to trade rooks, it should be one of these:

36...f6 37.Re8+ Kf7 38.Rb8 and it's going to be hard to get this b-pawn moving.
36...Rc8 37.Re7 b5 38.Rb7 b4 39.Be3 etc.
36...b5 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Rb8 b4 39.Be3.

Now 36...Rc1 should be the move on principle because we are going to play an outside passed pawn ending and it makes sense to exchange down in that type of position. But after 37.Rxc1 (better than Kf1 since the white king's priority is to move up the ranks) Nxc1 38.Kg2 the white king will get to his 4th rank first.

[chuckleslovakian]

Curtains plays 36.hxg3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3

Curtains

PoG

[clowntable]

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so we're considering

Rc8
Rc1
Nc3
Nb4 (which I hate)
b5
f6

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36...Nc3 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Re7 b5 39.Rxf7 and a later Rb7 getting behind the pawn can't be stopped.
36...Nb4 is similar.

If we don't want to trade rooks, it should be one of these:

36...f6 37.Re8+ Kf7 38.Rb8 and it's going to be hard to get this b-pawn moving.
36...Rc8 37.Re7 b5 38.Rb7 b4 39.Be3 etc.
36...b5 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Rb8 b4 39.Be3.

Now 36...Rc1 should be the move on principle because we are going to play an outside passed pawn ending and it makes sense to exchange down in that type of position. But after 37.Rxc1 (better than Kf1 since the white king's priority is to move up the ranks) Nxc1 38.Kg2 the white king will get to his 4th rank first.

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what about 38..g5 in that case? We can block his pawns and outrace him on the other side with our pawn, no?

[clowntable]

Ah no we have to move the b pawn first or it yill be blocked my the bishop.

[clowntable]

Maybe I don't get it. If he plays the rook exchange and moves the king afterwards, what stops us from just moving the b pawn to the holy land (and once it's there also controlling the nice diagonal)

[chuckleslovakian]

PoG plays 36...Rc1

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3 Qxb3
35. Bxa7 Qxg3+
36. hxg3 Rc1

Curtains

PoG

It is now Curtains turn

[curtains]

37. rxc1