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[jukofyork]

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most pots are not split. Of those that are, most won't all hit the bug. Of those that hit the bug, only half will be lost, because half the time it's the OTHER half of the split that's lost.

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Yes, the bug doesn't always happen and I do have code their to concatenate new data that is seen after the last memory pass.

I agree it will have pretty minimal effects on stats, possibly it might effect NL more bc of the all-ins causing more side pots, but not sure until get more feedback. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[POKhER]

Blehhh i tried it but i did it in the wrong window. Tiredness kicked in 2 hours ago, i should go bed.

Blehhh

By the way, -V OWNS!!! Default junk!

Its sexy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[murfnyc]

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(1) In FreePHG folder, create a new textfile and name it as the executable file of a Party skin you don't use in PT, say "EmpirePoker.exe".

(2) In PT, click Program File Locations (in Auto-Import window) and choose this new dummy executable file for EmpirePoker.

Adde

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Adde,

I created a text file named EmpirePoker.exe, but PokerTracker doesn't recognize it when I try and choose it as an executable (I guess it still views it as a .txt file rather than an .exe. file)...Do I have to convert it to another format? Sorry I am a real noob when it comes to these.....Thanks

Also, great job Juk, appreciate the effort

[jukofyork]

I not sure if Adde still awake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If renaming a text file didn't work, you could try making a copy of another executable and then renaming this EmpirePoker.exe.

Another idea if that doesn't work, would be to just install one of the skins like empire you don't ever use, and then run FPHG from inside of that folder. This was the HHF will appear in the folder and you should be able to point PT at it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[POKhER]

i copied EMPIREPOKER.Exe from its homedirectory into the dataminers directory. Pointed PT to that via its PARTY import window... and bingo!

[murfnyc]

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If renaming a text file didn't work, you could try making a copy of another executable and then renaming this EmpirePoker.exe.


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Juk,

Thanks....that worked like a charm....Also, I should have been able to think of that solution....so, thanks again for dealing with the technically inept.

Murfnyc

[Mogobu The Fool]

I just wanted to put in my two cents on the issue:

1. I don't personally begrudge PHT charging what he did. Pricing is not simply return of cost; it's also demand vs. supply. Someone could spend thousands of hours making something nobody wants; that will not justify a $1000 price tag. PHT was providing something a lot of people wanted badly, and he provided a functional tool on a timely basis in a game where time is a valuable commodity.

2. I fully support Juk's decision to publish based on his own ethics. He was offended by the effects of the supply-demand equation based on what he knew to be, at core, a simple process. Some people just kvetch; he produced and changed the supply side of the equation. It's a fair market, and open-source people are allowed to produce open-source projects.

3. I don't think this changes the "Party Response" equation much. At worst, it hastens the inevitable. At best, it HELPS. The surest way to get Party to take actions to block this memory-grabbing technique is to use it on a broad scale in a publicly-discussed for-profit scheme where someone is selling hand history data. What I'm saying is that I felt that the hhSmithey operation would be more likely to get this technique blocked than the PHT operation, even though hhSmithey was not discussing their technique or even selling software. The logistics of a large-scale data collection enterprise demand the efficiency of a memory-grabbing technique like this; I believe Party would draw the same conclusion. It was a public and growing Data Service, and that's the kind of thing that offends Party on all counts: it makes a profit off other people's private information, and it creates a very bad public image problem for Party if they fail to act against it. It's much easier for Party to quitely allow solo-operation tools (like HUDs) or grey-market activities which are never publicly exposed.

The availability of a free tool which achieves what most people want on an individual-enterprise level will do much to limit the size and perceived "threat level" of hhS and PHT, making Party actually less likely to mount a response.

[jukofyork]

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3. I don't think this changes the "Party Response" equation much. At worst, it hastens the inevitable. At best, it HELPS. The surest way to get Party to take actions to block this memory-grabbing technique is to use it on a broad scale in a publicly-discussed for-profit scheme where someone is selling hand history data. What I'm saying is that I felt that the hhSmithey operation would be more likely to get this technique blocked than the PHT operation, even though hhSmithey was not discussing their technique or even selling software. The logistics of a large-scale data collection enterprise demand the efficiency of a memory-grabbing technique like this; I believe Party would draw the same conclusion. It was a public and growing Data Service, and that's the kind of thing that offends Party on all counts: it makes a profit off other people's private information, and it creates a very bad public image problem for Party if they fail to act against it. It's much easier for Party to quitely allow solo-operation tools (like HUDs) or grey-market activities which are never publicly exposed.

The availability of a free tool which achieves what most people want on an individual-enterprise level will do much to limit the size and perceived "threat level" of hhS and PHT, making Party actually less likely to mount a response.

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I think point (1) and (2) have been discussed alot today and their isn't much else I can add [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], but I think Mogobu's point (3) is more valid than people realize.

So far the only software which has really made party take actions is Bots &amp; <u>Large Scale</u> Data Sharing Operations. I still believe we would all be allowed to do our own mining, using the old software, if these Large Scale data sharing services had not used the HH data to their own advantage.

For Bots the reason party clamped down was obviously from (negative) public pressure, but I am not so sure that it was the Data sharing which upset party so much as the fact that they were slowly using an 'extortion like' tactic to force all users to buy into these services to remove themselves from the DB.

Consider this: The fact that you can only generate HHFs for you own hands may actually make these Large Scale operations more attractive, and in the worst case Party could decide to simply ban HUDs and live use of PT (to be sure that you are not using shared data - all those who said they didn't care what party did in the HHSmithy thread, consider how this would effect you?).

The fact that I have made a free version of the miner, should hopefully make these Large Scale data sharing services less attractive, as people can go back to doing their own mining for their own use and at the same time the profit making side of this has been neutralized. Right enough people can share the HHFs generated from my application (or from PHT for that matter), but I hope Party can see that blocking mining is not necessarily the best way to stop the data sharing, as somebody will always find a way to circumvent it.

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Adde]

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If renaming a text file didn't work, you could try making a copy of another executable and then renaming this EmpirePoker.exe.


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Juk,

Thanks....that worked like a charm....Also, I should have been able to think of that solution....so, thanks again for dealing with the technically inept.

Murfnyc

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I'm still awake. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Problem solved I see, but anyway, here's what was wrong I think: Windows doesn't show file extensions for you, so when you renamed the textfile it became "EmpirePoker.exe.txt", and thus still a textfile.

Adde

[jukofyork]

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I'm still awake. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Sry, I just saw location was Sweden, and sometimes people forget the Atlantic time differences! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]