Flameout in life and in Poker (VERY LONG)

[grandgnu]

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1. Religion has been severely mis-used throughout the ages, especially in producing a crop of close-minded individuals who apply their religious doctrine in a manner that infringes upon the free-will of others who do not share their views.

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This is the realm of the fanatic minority mis-using religion as a rallying cry for their fanatacism and misguided beliefs. Not the realm of mainstream religious followers today.

Additionally, while I wouldn't know from personal experience, I am well acquinted with the fact that 12 step program (like GA and AA) use the concept of a "higher power" to aid in healing people. This technique has proven quite effective.

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My point exactly. These people are weak-willed and unable to control themselves, and thus must turn to made-up fables and myths to better themselves.

I suppose if it works for you, more power to ya. But I still think those who are truly intelligent and strong-willed would not buy into the "written word of god" crap that is spewed forth from the various religions.

I just never got into that whole "god loves and forgives everyone, but if you don't believe in him, you're going to hell" dogma.

[Kaeser]

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If this were true, then the vast majority of people in the world would be considered weak willed.



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Yeah that sounds about right to me

[Kaeser]

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1. Religion has been severely mis-used throughout the ages, especially in producing a crop of close-minded individuals who apply their religious doctrine in a manner that infringes upon the free-will of others who do not share their views.

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This is the realm of the fanatic minority mis-using religion as a rallying cry for their fanatacism and misguided beliefs. Not the realm of mainstream religious followers today.

Additionally, while I wouldn't know from personal experience, I am well acquinted with the fact that 12 step program (like GA and AA) use the concept of a "higher power" to aid in healing people. This technique has proven quite effective.

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If these techniques are so effective then how come you've never met a recovered alcoholic who no longer needs to attend AA?

[Sniper]

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If these techniques are so effective then how come you've never met a recovered alcoholic who no longer needs to attend AA?

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For the same reason the best poker players hang out on 2+2... support! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Kaeser]

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If these techniques are so effective then how come you've never met a recovered alcoholic who no longer needs to attend AA?

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For the same reason the best poker players hang out on 2+2... support! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Be serious now you know the difference. We hang out at 2+2 because it's something we enjoy doing. AA members never leave because the very program breeds a sense of weakness and dependence. They push a strong message that you are powerless to help yourself and that if you leave the program ,that's leaving AA not leaving god, that you will invariably return to drinking.

[Army Eye]

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Since when was Waiting for Godot ever obscure, especially among the college-educated?


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That's the thing that made me think that something wasn't right here. Waiting for Godot is anything but obscure.

[Godot]

I’m back. It looks like some of you have missed me, some of you have tried to tear me down (rather pathetically I might add), while others just said meh... You just can’t please all of the people all of the time. It’s amazing how much debate this thread has sparked. It looks as if the recent posts have devolved into a religious flamewar, and I never even mentioned religion in any of my posts.

I was astounded when I returned to see how many people jumped in with their 2 cents. There were some bizarrely tangential topics bandied about in this thread which left me baffled I recall reading one guy saying that he expected me to attack his gender and his ethnicity…WTF?? (still scratching my head on that one). Then there were the numerous posts on the titular play on which I based my name on. Why are people arguing whether Waiting for Godot is obscure or not? I suppose people like to argue for the sake of arguing or they want to impress others with their breadth of literary knowledge. Obscurity is a qualitative judgment, but I think given the choice of labeling it obscure or not obscure, most people will side with me on this one. I saw one poster say that that was the reason he didn’t buy my story. If I state apples are tasty and you don’t agree with me, does that mean the rest of my argument falls down? If I mention Schrodinger’s Cat and I call it an obscure reference… will someone say “it’s not obscure if you’re an astrophysicist?”

I don’t want to spend too much time arguing the most petty of points here. However, given the large number of views (over 3,500 at least count) there have been NO credible logical, and concrete arguments against the veracity of my posts. Doesn’t that count for something? The best my detractors can come up with are non-specific feelings and vague hunches.

I know I shouldn’t sweat the small stuff. It’s just part of my ultra competitive nature, I never back down from a challenge. That is partially the reason I am in situation I am in. I realize that competitiveness, like everything, is best in moderation, and I am trying to achieve balance in my life right now.

Before leaving last week, I was under incredible amounts of stress. As a result, I was even more likely to go off at the slightest provocation. I am back now, and things are looking up for me, so I probably won’t be as argumentative as I was. There is no point in posting here if it makes me miserable (although the same could be said of poker).

Waiting for Godot

[grandgnu]

I hope you're enjoying your game. Let's get back to bashing the weak-willed religious followers, that was more interesting. w00t!

[Godot]

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I hope you're enjoying your game. Let's get back to bashing the weak-willed religious followers, that was more interesting. w00t!

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I wouldn't consider them all weak-willed. I think it takes a strong will to avoid the temptation to sin, no matter how misguided. That being said, I do find it impossible to argue with religious zealouts because you can't use logic.

[grandgnu]

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I hope you're enjoying your game. Let's get back to bashing the weak-willed religious followers, that was more interesting. w00t!

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I wouldn't consider them all weak-willed. I think it takes a strong will to avoid the temptation to sin, no matter how misguided. That being said, I do find it impossible to argue with religious zealouts because you can't use logic.

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Strong will? More like an irrational fear of gods wrath and vengeance.

Sin? That's the only thing "fun" in life. Bring on the Asian Triplets! w00t! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]