ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs

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Well back when I used to sell weed, I was unfortunate enough to get busted. It was a major monthlong DA investigation into a friend of mine who I was unlucky enough to be doing business with that day. When they offered me the opportunity to give up information and walk back home without handcuffs, I politely informed them that I'd "seen enough episodes of Law & Order to know that I'll wait for my lawyer" and chose the ride down to central booking instead. I incurred an enormous cost as a result, both personally and financially, but I knew then as I know now that it is never correct to squeal on people who trust you.

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If you choose not to report someone who is cheating the entire poker community, that is your perogative, but these posts where you try to make yourself look like some type of hero for not reporting them are making me nauseous.

YOU ARE NOT A HERO! YOU ARE A FRIEND TO SCUM! Good day to you.

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Why do any of you really care? Are you all upstanding in your own lives? Have you ever cheated before? Have you ever made mistakes in your own life? Well guess what, even the best players in poker mess up, just like everyone else. If this was some joe schmoe who plays 11 dollar sit and go's who gets caught doing something like this, no one gives a flying [censored], but since it's a high profile player everyone is quick to grab the stake and wants to nail him to it. Even if this is true, which I think it very well is, who cares? What goes around comes around, cheater's might win today, but eventually they get caught.

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What you say makes no sense at all.

First of all, who are you to say that nobody would hold it against a low stakes player? You're pulling that one out of your butt with no justification whatsoever -- and none really possible. Very silly stuff.

Second, this is not a "mistake." A mistake does not involve considerable premeditation and jumping through hoops of this order in order to get it done. A mistake is, say, forgetting to put the ice cream back in the freezer when you're interrupted by a phone call. A mistake is not watching where you are going when you're walking around and bumping into someone. That's a mistake. There is absolutely no aspect of being simply a "mistake" in playing multiple entries in the same tournament. And it's not close.

[ononimo]

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plz post more

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yeah, i'm sure he's real jazzed about 2+2 right now ...

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You are not "seriously trying to equate" either curtains or I to ZeeJustin in this thread are you?

Perhaps you can't recognize the distinction between a moral dilemna, and an unethical practice. Curtains and I were engaged in the former while ZeeJustin in the latter.

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No they aren't the same action shaniac, but yes they both are wrong. And there really is no moral dilemma if you believe yourself obligated to stop and help an injured stranger or report a crime by unknown persons. You only think there is a dilemma because you lack a true moral compass on how to deal with unethical behaviour by those known to you. Corruption depends on this.

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Well back when I used to sell weed, I was unfortunate enough to get busted. It was a major monthlong DA investigation into a friend of mine who I was unlucky enough to be doing business with that day. When they offered me the opportunity to give up information and walk back home without handcuffs, I politely informed them that I'd "seen enough episodes of Law & Order to know that I'll wait for my lawyer" and chose the ride down to central booking instead. I incurred an enormous cost as a result, both personally and financially, but I knew then as I know now that it is never correct to squeal on people who trust you.

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If you choose not to report someone who is cheating the entire poker community, that is your perogative, but these posts where you try to make yourself look like some type of hero for not reporting them are making me nauseous.

YOU ARE NOT A HERO! YOU ARE A FRIEND TO SCUM! Good day to you.

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Um, I am not sure where in this thread I asserted that I am a "hero" a "model citizen" or somehow otherwise occupied space on a moral high ground. I just don't think snitching is the issue we should be focusing on, and those calling for it are pretty out of touch with inerpersonal dynamics.

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Get the F over youself. Tell me a time you had a friend or family member come to you about something quasi-legal and you ran straight to the authorities. Or are you 17 with no real life experiences yet?

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suzzer,

I have indeed had something similar happen with family or friends a couple times over the years. My terms when they told me were to make restitution or get ratted. They made resititution. And if I hadn't taken that action, then I would just be and aider and abbetor as you and shaniac are. I'm not going to be that kind of person and I don't want people making such confidences in me, because the severity of such actions confided will only grow over time and I would just allow myself to be a participating bystander.

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So who determined what was restition? You? Did they pay interest? What about the punishment being stronger than the crime? If I knew all I had to do was just pay restitution, and nothing more or no criminal judgements, I'd probably be a lot more likely to try it next time. Thanks for being so soft on me and not turning me in.

Glad you were able to determine exactly where the moral line fell in this case. I will PM you next time I have an ethical crisis and want to know exactly how much to demand out of the perpetrator in lieu of turning them in.

In case you don't see what I'm getting at here. Some might get up on an even higher horse than you and insist you are an aider and abettor by letting them slide off the hook so easily. Knowing how high of a high horse to get on is kind of a personal thing and not that easily determined. I don't think you're being fair on shaniac and curtains just because their line doesn't fall EXACTLY where yours does.

[TomBrooks]

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I don't know how my name has gotten involved in this. I have never once multi-accounted and I have never even associated with ZeeJustin other than meeting him for a few seconds in Atlantis.

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I don't know how you got involved in it either since this is your first post.

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Get the F over youself. Tell me a time you had a friend or family member come to you about something quasi-legal and you ran straight to the authorities. Or are you 17 with no real life experiences yet?

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That's what's cool about me. I don't like any of you [censored] and have no problem turning any of you in.

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Even the most remote possibility that multiple entries could be seated at the same table during the course of a tournament makes arguing in their favor completely illogical.

Turn the tables. Invite multiple entries. Make a rule that if multiple entries end up seated at the same table, at any point in the tournament, the largest stack is immediately eliminated; if more than one multiple entries are simultaneuosly seated at the same table, all but the smallest stack are immediately elimininated. I doubt that any multiple entry player would play under such rules by simply discounting the affect of the rule based upon the "remote" chance of being seated at the same table.