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Old 04-28-2006, 08:54 AM
wh1t3bread wh1t3bread is offline
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I think the Rangers signing Chara right now would be a big mistake. At best, he'll sign for max money for 5 years, if not longer.


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I don't understand why everyone is saying that by the Rangers going out and signing one of the best defenseman (29 years old) in the NHL to a 5 year contract automatically means the Rangers are playing with fire and attempting a Stanley Cup run next year or the year after.

Signing one player to a max contract won't kill the Rangers cap. They have Jagr on the CHEAP. He is getting 4 million a year (the Caps are picking up the rest). The Rangers could return their entire team from this year (expect Ozolinsh and probably Poti ~ those 2 are as good as gone) and sign Chara and still have millions to spare. Signing Chara won't prevent the Rangers from acquiring/retaining other good players.


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See - the past 7 years. See - the Knicks.


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Apples to Oranges.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:03 AM
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Maybe their cap situation is better than I thought. I don't know it in detail. It just seems to me that a young team trying to build shouldn't be throwing around max contracts.

A guy like Chara is a great addition to any team, obviously. But signing the big name free agents to massive contracts is what got them in trouble before. All teams should be cautious about it, not just the Rangers.

Where is Philly in two years if Forsberg is playing 25 games a year? How about Modano's 5 year contract in Dallas? Looks great now, but might not when he's 38.

My point is, a big contract like this can handicap a team for years. Dallas & Philly might be able to get away with it because they're close to a Cup winning team. This might push them over the top, and then who cares about their cap? They rebuild, and go again in a few years. The Rangers could put themselves in a situation where due to cap restrictions they cannot improve their team when they need to.

Is there really on $4M of Jagr's contract under NYR's cap? That's a great deal if so.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:08 AM
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Broduer = best goalie in the league.

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Yes.

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Best goalie ever.


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No. But he's way up there.

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Who is or was better?

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Terry Sawchuk

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(As much as it pains me to say...) Patrick Roy

I'd put Brodeur on par with Hasek. Hasek was better in his prime, but Brodeur has done it longer.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:18 AM
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Zurvan,

I understand what you are saying now. Yes, one definitely has to be careful when signing players to large deals. I'd have to look it up for exact numbers. But if the Rangers let Ozolinsh, Poti & Sykora loose and then replace them with Chara ($5 million a year), Pock & Dawes/Immonnen they will still be about 4-5 million under.

Jagr is pulling in about 7 million a year. The Rangers are paying about $4 million of that, the Caps are picking up the rest. It's probably the best contract situation in all of the NHL. $4 million counts against the Rangers cap. I'm not sure if the remaining difference counts against the Caps or not.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:36 AM
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It just occurred to me that the NY Rangers aren't even eliminated yet and I'm talking about the offseason. Haha. This is what happens after 25 years of rooting for the Rangers, Mets and Jets.

Anyway, Let's Go Rangers! At least send this series back to NJ.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:41 AM
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Brodeur is the best playoff goalie of our time. Hasek wasn't nearly as good and only won once with a very stacked Detroit team a couple of years ago. Not saying Devils weren't stacked or weren't very good, they were, but other than Stevens a couple of other slightly marquee names, Brodeur has been the major reason the Devils have won it.

Hasek in Buffalo never had teams on par with the Devils or the Wings that he later joined and was arguably one of the best regular season goalies period, I'd just rather than Marty when the playoffs rolled around.

I never got to see Terry, but Roy could definitely be in the argument, but if Marty wins one without Scotty this year, I'm pretty sure I'd take Marty but that's a big IF.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:47 AM
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Brodeur is the best playoff goalie of our time. Hasek wasn't nearly as good and only won once with a very stacked Detroit team a couple of years ago. Not saying Devils weren't stacked or weren't very good, they were, but other than Stevens a couple of other slightly marquee names, Brodeur has been the major reason the Devils have won it.

Hasek in Buffalo never had teams on par with the Devils or the Wings that he later joined and was arguably one of the best regular season goalies period, I'd just rather than Marty when the playoffs rolled around.

I never got to see Terry, but Roy could definitely be in the argument, but if Marty wins one without Scotty this year, I'm pretty sure I'd take Marty but that's a big IF.

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He's got a while to go, but I agree that, yes, if he wins it this year, he is definitely vaulted to the top of my list. I can't say he is the definitive best though.

Roy was a HUGE playoff gamer, if you exclude the 7-0 shellacking he got from the Wings a few years ago. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:57 AM
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Brodeur is the best playoff goalie of our time. Hasek wasn't nearly as good and only won once with a very stacked Detroit team a couple of years ago. Not saying Devils weren't stacked or weren't very good, they were, but other than Stevens a couple of other slightly marquee names, Brodeur has been the major reason the Devils have won it.

Hasek in Buffalo never had teams on par with the Devils or the Wings that he later joined and was arguably one of the best regular season goalies period, I'd just rather than Marty when the playoffs rolled around.

I never got to see Terry, but Roy could definitely be in the argument, but if Marty wins one without Scotty this year, I'm pretty sure I'd take Marty but that's a big IF.

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Hasek carried Buffalo in there Cup run in 1999...

....Sabres has no O to go with tenacious D and great Goalie

...and there is the whole foot in the crease argument
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:11 AM
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3 SC vs 1 SC.
4 SC appearances vs 2 SC appearances.
Scott and Marty carried those teams. We had other talent but honestly it was them most of those years. Elias is great, Rafalski has been strong, Niedermayer was also very good, but Marty is the reason we win in the playoffs. He always got hot when they won. As I said earlier, Hasek probally could have been inputted onto the Devils teams and they might have had similar success (who knows), but Marty has proven to be one of the best ever.
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:12 AM
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Last Nights Oilers Game

How do you miss that obvious pick on the 5-3 Refs blew it there
Oilers stay the xxxx out of the box
Craig MCT get a powerplay yours is brutal

It seems the trick is if aplayer gets stick close to body players kinda pull it gainst themselves to draw the hook.
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