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#91
04-04-2006, 07:56 PM
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follow-up from UB
they aren't even looking at it from the right angle
------------------------------------ I have looked into this hand (30428937-13526) and since the beginning it looks very strange, with raises until $1200 and the player who won the hand with 5d-7d paid. Question: Will you pay $1200 with 5-7 before the flop?. One of the players is looking for the flush, the other guy trying to bluff with an A, or looking for it in the turn. It does look strange but is not collussion. In the second case one of them has J 10 and the other one A-Q, both are strong hands, with 9 9 4 on the flop, the A is going to try to bluff or defend his hand and looking to pair the A or Q on the Turn or River, J 10 is going to pay because he has a possible flush or looking to pair one of his cards. It does look strange but is not collussion. As you know , we cannot disclose personal information and the hands of them are private, I cannot show you how they play. We take very serious any case of collusion, chip dumping or all in abuser , it doesn't matter which are the players involved. Every player deserves a fair enviroment to play poker and we try to do our best to keep this place safe. Please note that the hands are always reviewed by the most experimented poker specialists. 
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#92
04-04-2006, 08:10 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
what is an experimented poker specialist? I want one for christmas.
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#94
04-04-2006, 08:45 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
exactly NL, we are dealing with guys who can barely follow the action, much less detect collusion. Taken together, these hands are [censored] sick and these guys should be strung up somewhere.
-James
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#95
04-04-2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
Im confused but isnt colluding using a strategy of just raising mindlessly with bad hands hoping that everyoine folds a pretty terrible method of cheating? Wouldn't you want to reserve it for those times when at least one of the players involved actually has something?
It just seems to me that if they are colluding they are doing a ridiculous job of it and trying to make it as obvious as possible, which I don't see why they would be doing? edit- looked at the hand closer, I agree it looks really absurd.
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#96
04-04-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
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Im confused but isnt colluding using a strategy of just raising mindlessly with bad hands hoping that everyoine folds a pretty terrible method of cheating? Wouldn't you want to reserve it for those times when at least one of the players involved actually has something? It just seems to me that if they are colluding they are doing a ridiculous job of it and trying to make it as obvious as possible, which I don't see why they would be doing? [/ QUOTE ] The first hand is blatantly obvious, the 2nd hand was more well-thought out. Scary board, but they have outs if the other guy sticks around.
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#98
04-04-2006, 09:13 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
they were extracting value, figured c had to call one bet on the turn and would fold for 2 on the river, but if b capped the turn, C would fold.
Honestly i dont know why. None of us can say for sure this is collusion without A's holecards and other hands between these two.
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#99
04-04-2006, 09:30 PM
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Re: follow-up from UB
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they were extracting value, figured c had to call one bet on the turn and would fold for 2 on the river, but if b capped the turn, C would fold. Honestly i dont know why. None of us can say for sure this is collusion without A's holecards and other hands between these two. [/ QUOTE ] It's easier for them to force C out by letting A keep the initiative going into the river. It'd look even MORE suspcious if B capped the turn and A still leads the river and folds to the raise. Likewise they probably figure that once C calls two cold on the turn, another two cold isn't going to phase him, so, they're wasting their time firing and may as well save the last bullets for the river.
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