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#91
09-21-2007, 10:28 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
A note about coaches not being at ND long...
Devine- 6 years, 53-16-1, one national Championship Faust- 5 years, posted a 7-5 record twice (his best) Davie- 4 years, started 0-3 in 2001 (first time in school history) O'Leary- 5 days, enough said Willingham- 3 years, 7-5 & 6-5 in last two seasons Ara Parseghian was the first non-alumni to coach ND. He won 2 National Championships. With alumni at the helm ND has won 7 national titles (only 4 (+1 in 1993) with non-alumni). There was a trend in the coaches being there fewer and fewer years (with the exception of Holtz) leading up to Willingham and Weis. ND had grown impatient. Now they think they have there guy. They brought back an alumni to coach (the first since Leahy). It's something ND is big on. It's hard to see where ND treated Willingham unfairly and where Weis is being shown special treatment. Since Rockne every ND alumni head coach has been there at least 10 years. It's just the way ND does things. 
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#93
09-21-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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[ QUOTE ] Notre Dame fans- How did you guys get convinced of the youth excuse? I'm somewhat interested in how pieces of misinformation like that percolate through groups. Notre Dame is not remarkably young and plenty of other teams are having success with underclassmen in important positions. How do your brains ignore Tebow et al.? [/ QUOTE ] teams with underclassmen excelling also tend to have great junior/senior cass players at various positions. you don't normally see football teams being carried by freshman and sophomores all over the field [/ QUOTE ] SOOOOOOOO sick of all hearing this crap about ND being young as an excuse. ND Starting Offense..... 3 Sr 4 Jr 3 So 1 Fr USC Starting Offense... 4 Sr 3 Jr 1 So 3 Fr
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#95
09-21-2007, 10:55 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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ND Starting Offense..... 3 Sr 4 Jr 3 So 1 Fr USC Starting Offense... 4 Sr 3 Jr 1 So 3 Fr [/ QUOTE ] so the fact that the #1 team in the country has 7 fr/so starters means that no other team also starting 7 can use "youth" as reason why they fail. there is awesome evidence all over the place in this thread.
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#96
09-21-2007, 10:58 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He established a stellar reputation as an offensive coordinate in the NFL only by getting the opposing team's defensive calls every year from 2000 on (as confirmed by SI's story). [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] how you keep mentioning this while 1) you ignore that many other teams have admitted to having the same "advantage" and 2) you have no idea how much "advantage" was actually gained by the teams who have admitted to stealing signals [/ QUOTE ] Funny how you originally denied it was even true. As for how much of an advantage it was, isnt the 2007 ND offense evidence it was very valuable? [/ QUOTE ] Isn't the 2005 Notre Dame offense evidence that it wasn't valuable at all?
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#98
09-22-2007, 12:52 AM
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Isn't the 2005 Notre Dame offense evidence that it wasn't valuable at all? [/ QUOTE ] No, it's evidence that if Charlie has Ty's stellar recruits, he can do okay.
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#99
09-22-2007, 01:24 AM
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20 years ago they didn't limit scholarships and parity wasn't even in sight. [/ QUOTE ] Limits were put into place in 1977, at 95. It dropped to 92 in 1992, 88 in 1993 and the current 85 in 1994.
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#100
09-22-2007, 12:09 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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[ QUOTE ] Forget about Weis and where he falls, would you be thrilled if your team's coach left after the season and Ty was hired as your head coach? [/ QUOTE ] I sure am. If I fired Ty and got the performance I've gotten out of Weiss I wouldn't be too happy either. Especially this year. A 'building year'...Please. Ty's done more in 3 years, with less talent, than Weiss. Period. So what if Weiss made it to BCS bowls. Weak ass schedules and not winning any big games. Note: He's lost every big game so far(also note that he's losing by more and more as the years have progressed). I think people are giving Weiss too much credit for taking ND to BCS bowls when if he were coaching any other team and did the same perfomance during the season, they wouldn't have made it near a BCS bid. So give credit to it being "ND", and ND's money drawing power, not Weiss' great leadership. b [/ QUOTE ] Purdue could have made BCS games with Notre Dames exceptions and schedules the previous two years. The ass beatings they received in each games shows that they would have been the 4th best team in any conference at best.
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