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[SpecT]

this has been a very good read.

[GrandMelon]

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this has been a very good read.

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[MyTurn2Raise]

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there is absolutely no reason not to trust him or think that he will scam you in anyway.

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unless you read snowbank's own words in chat logs

seems like he is failing miserably in business acumen

[tufat23]

well i just finished a lesson with snowbank about 20mins ago.


it was fine.

[kitaristi0]

I can't believe I just read this whole thread.

[MatthewRyan]

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well i just finished a lesson with snowbank about 20mins ago.


it was fine.

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did you ask if he plans to respond here?

[goofyballer]

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well i just finished a lesson with snowbank about 20mins ago.


it was fine.

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So you're saying snowbank has more time for big-name posters on 2+2 than for people that have been trying to schedule a lesson for about a month and keep getting told "tonight or tomorrow"?

[pokersanjuan]

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snowbank is a stand up guy and there is absolutely no reason not to trust him or think that he will scam you in anyway. That is my 2cents...

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OK, he is a stand up guy and all his friends vouch for him.

Why can't other students use my hours? What is wrong with that?

Even if I accept I am in the wrong and dont deserve anything back, ok. Let someone else use the hours. I think this displays what type of person he is and in itself shows how far off he is - if he will not even allow that.

[doc43]

Very interesting discussion. There are lessons here for everybody.

Coaches:

1. Spend some time considering if you have what it takes to be a successful coach. Being a great player does not always mean you will be a great coach. Butch Harmon is a great golf coach, but is not a great golfer. His former student, Tiger Woods, likely couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

2. Treat coaching as a business. Be very clear (in writing) what you will do, how you will do it, and what it will cost. Have written policies about payment, refunds, exchanges, scheduling etc. Gaurentee your services (you will do what you say you will do, when you say you will do it), but do not gaurentee results. That is up to the student. Tom McEvoy only says that you will be a better player with him. He does not say you will be a winner.

3. Treat your clients with the respect and courtesy they deserve. If there is a conflict, then move heaven and earth to make it right. Word of mouth is extremely powerful. We have seen here how an unhappy client can bring down a career. It doesn't have to go that way.

Students:

1.Before looking for a coach, do some serious self-assessment. Figure out exactly what you want/need from a coach. You don't need a coach to learn how to play AQ UTG in LAG's. Coaches can be very useful in a more global sense such as dealing with psychological issues, tells, image, bad habits, and negative trends in your play.

2. Do your homework . Look at lots of coaches. Talk to them. Interview them as you would a new attorney or an accountant. Talk to others that have worked with them. Make sure that they can provide what you need. It's your money and your time. You need to make the most of it. That is the essance of EV.

[aba20]

Seems pretty unethical to me. As a part owner of cardrunners if a situation like this arose I would reimburse the money for unused lessons.