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#91
08-27-2006, 01:47 AM
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Re: *Official* HSP 8/21
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What? Eli has the best hand with a weak ace? Is the card display wrong or is the announcing just wrong? [/ QUOTE ] Either Gabe simply misspoke or there was a bad editing job done (or both - that mistake should have been caught). Given that the commentary is done AFTER editing, then the commentators are relying on the same card information we are. [/ QUOTE ] I know there has been a lot of arguing in this thread about Gabe's comments, but he wasn't making a direct comparison between the two hands. Gus bet out. Gabe said, "I don't think anyone can call here. Eli has the best hand." Gabe was clearly comparing Eli's hand against all of the other potential callers in the hand. I'm not saying Gabe doesn't make mistakes and I'm certainly not saying his announcing is easily understandable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but I don't believe he was technically incorrect here. [/ QUOTE ] OMG, do we really need to go over this for what, the hundredth time? It is obvious that Gabe miscalled the hand and he was not comparing Eli's hand to the others. Amazing that comprehension skills are so lacking among people who call themselves poker players. 
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#92
08-27-2006, 07:48 AM
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Re: super loose play
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Only interesting hand for me was Daniels flopped set of seven vs Gus turned straight and flush draw. Didn't like Daniels play in that hand at all. And then he did his usual trick by saying: "I put you on a 9.". Why the heck would he play the hand like that if he put him on a 9, raise the friggin turn if you put him on a 9? Is he that confident Gus will fire the third barrel with a wiffed 9? I really didn't get that play. [/ QUOTE ] Daniel seems to always put the other guy on exactly what they had after all the cards are face up... and seems to play badly in many spots, however, his play isn't bad here. He obv can't put Gus on only a naked 9. He can put him on a range that includes nakes nines, overpairs and OESD+pair combos. He wants Gus to check call the river, trying to pick off a busted draw bluff.
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#93
08-27-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: *Official* HSP 8/21
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What? Eli has the best hand with a weak ace? Is the card display wrong or is the announcing just wrong? [/ QUOTE ] Either Gabe simply misspoke or there was a bad editing job done (or both - that mistake should have been caught). Given that the commentary is done AFTER editing, then the commentators are relying on the same card information we are. [/ QUOTE ] I know there has been a lot of arguing in this thread about Gabe's comments, but he wasn't making a direct comparison between the two hands. Gus bet out. Gabe said, "I don't think anyone can call here. Eli has the best hand." Gabe was clearly comparing Eli's hand against all of the other potential callers in the hand. I'm not saying Gabe doesn't make mistakes and I'm certainly not saying his announcing is easily understandable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but I don't believe he was technically incorrect here. [/ QUOTE ] OMG, do we really need to go over this for what, the hundredth time? It is obvious that Gabe miscalled the hand and he was not comparing Eli's hand to the others. Amazing that comprehension skills are so lacking among people who call themselves poker players. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. You are a retard.
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#94
08-27-2006, 07:56 PM
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Re: *Official* HSP 8/21
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What? Eli has the best hand with a weak ace? Is the card display wrong or is the announcing just wrong? [/ QUOTE ] Either Gabe simply misspoke or there was a bad editing job done (or both - that mistake should have been caught). Given that the commentary is done AFTER editing, then the commentators are relying on the same card information we are. [/ QUOTE ] I know there has been a lot of arguing in this thread about Gabe's comments, but he wasn't making a direct comparison between the two hands. Gus bet out. Gabe said, "I don't think anyone can call here. Eli has the best hand." Gabe was clearly comparing Eli's hand against all of the other potential callers in the hand. I'm not saying Gabe doesn't make mistakes and I'm certainly not saying his announcing is easily understandable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but I don't believe he was technically incorrect here. [/ QUOTE ] OMG, do we really need to go over this for what, the hundredth time? It is obvious that Gabe miscalled the hand and he was not comparing Eli's hand to the others. Amazing that comprehension skills are so lacking among people who call themselves poker players. [/ QUOTE ] That's your opinion. It's obvious to me that he was comparing Eli's hand to the others. It's amazing to me that some people believe their word is God.
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#95
08-28-2006, 03:21 AM
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Re: *Official* HSP 8/21
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What? Eli has the best hand with a weak ace? Is the card display wrong or is the announcing just wrong? [/ QUOTE ] Either Gabe simply misspoke or there was a bad editing job done (or both - that mistake should have been caught). Given that the commentary is done AFTER editing, then the commentators are relying on the same card information we are. [/ QUOTE ] I know there has been a lot of arguing in this thread about Gabe's comments, but he wasn't making a direct comparison between the two hands. Gus bet out. Gabe said, "I don't think anyone can call here. Eli has the best hand." Gabe was clearly comparing Eli's hand against all of the other potential callers in the hand. I'm not saying Gabe doesn't make mistakes and I'm certainly not saying his announcing is easily understandable [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] but I don't believe he was technically incorrect here. [/ QUOTE ] OMG, do we really need to go over this for what, the hundredth time? It is obvious that Gabe miscalled the hand and he was not comparing Eli's hand to the others. Amazing that comprehension skills are so lacking among people who call themselves poker players. [/ QUOTE ] I thought this at first too, but I've listened to it again, and Gabe does not miscall that hand with Eli. I posted the transcript above, and although it's confusing, it's clear.
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#96
08-28-2006, 11:28 AM
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Re: *Official* HSP 8/21
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I thought this at first too, but I've listened to it again, and Gabe does not miscall that hand with Eli. I posted the transcript above, and although it's confusing, it's clear. [/ QUOTE ] I've also listened to it again and it's clear that he did miscall it. Anyways, tonight's another episode so I'm done with this topic. Hasta la Pasta.
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#97
08-29-2006, 06:55 PM
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Re: super loose play
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[ QUOTE ] I should post this hand from Daniel's perspective in SSNL. I'd be torn a new one. [/ QUOTE ] But you wouldn't in HSNL. Those guys are all about protecting their stack over protecting their hand. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is true. Many of them are more than willing to back one pair with their stack (and correctly).
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