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Old 07-20-2006, 11:53 AM
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The Cubs are one of the most profitable franchises in the MLB, mainly due to their idiotic fans willing to put up with retards in the front office year after year.

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God I hate fairweather fans.

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after enough time on this forum, two things are clear to me:

1. 2+2ers hate fans who pack the stadium when the team is losing
2. 2+2ers hate fans who only care about the team when they're winning

clearly, the only fan the posters here like is one who never comes to games at all.

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you, my friend, are a very wise man

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I don't hate people who go the games when the team is losing. I think that's the dumbest thing I hear about the cubs - how the fans are so stupid for supporting a loser.
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:54 PM
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agreed

hell, I still goto Illinois football games over 80% of the time
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:31 PM
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hell, I still goto Illinois football games over 80% of the time

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pwn3d

the cubs have nothing on them. of course, memorial stadium is never packed anymore.
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:19 AM
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hell, I still goto Illinois football games over 80% of the time

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zook turning it around at all?
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:25 AM
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his recruiting classes are rated pretty high (top 25 barely), which is awesome considering how bad the team has been.

Of course, Turner had some decent recruiting classes too. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I am just waiting to watch the Juice (Isiah Williams) take over at QB. He is the coming messiah. I figure Brasic will get 3 games or so until the Juice takes over.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:02 AM
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I went to a football coaching clinic at U of I this past spring and Zook sold me. I could see how he could recruit like a [censored].
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:59 AM
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The Cubs aren't in that bad of shape really. Wood's big contract is going to get bought out at the end of the year.
We all know about Zambrano. Barrett has sneakily become the best offensive catcher in the NL.
Jones has overcome one heck of a horrid start to not make me want to jettison him to the curb. Pierre has somehow learned to hit again but he can't throw the ball back to 2nd base without a hop from CF. Howry and Eyre have been excellent additions which means this team has a bullpen something previous teams never had. Prior still has the talent even though we've all but given up on him.
Ramirez is still one of the best 3B in the league.

I'd like to see Dempster go back to the starting rotation and probably make Howry the closer for the rest of the season just to give one of the starting pitchers that shouldn't be in the majors yet a break.

Ownership isn't the problem--they spent the $ in the last few years.
Perez is a backup--not a starter. Do you read this Dusty?

I can't figure out how Nevin won't be traded (I'm pretty sure tex is paying his salary)--but Hendry could do it...
Maddux will get dealt as well--he can't hit his spots well anymore and right now he still has decent trade value.

Murton, Cedeno, and Theriot are young yet and they can only improve so let's wait on them and see.

McPhail's been here long enough that he should get the axe.
Hendry doesn't understand what a manager's job is. It's not to manage when they're fully healthy--it's to get the most out of the team the way it is. If you can't get the most out of the team even when they're bad you need to go as does anyone who doesn't understand this concept.

The problem I have with Brenly and Pinella is just because I hope they do not manage like they announce. They come off sometimes like complete morons and I've had enough of complete morons in the Cubs organization.

They have enough in the offseason to get a big name FA at a need position--a barry zito or a vernon wells or preferably both* would turn this club back into contenders in a not that strong NL central.

*in my dreams that will happen

edit--how did I forget about Marshall--that kid has stepped up for the cubs this year. If his inconsistency wears off as he gets more experience he'll be good if not great.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Rebuilding the Cubs

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The Cubs are one of the most profitable franchises in the MLB, mainly due to their idiotic fans willing to put up with retards in the front office year after year.

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God I hate fairweather fans.

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after enough time on this forum, two things are clear to me:

1. 2+2ers hate fans who pack the stadium when the team is losing
2. 2+2ers hate fans who only care about the team when they're winning

clearly, the only fan the posters here like is one who never comes to games at all.

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They hate atlanta for not having fans
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: Rebuilding the Cubs

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The Cubs are one of the most profitable franchises in the MLB, mainly due to their idiotic fans willing to put up with retards in the front office year after year.

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God I hate fairweather fans.

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after enough time on this forum, two things are clear to me:

1. 2+2ers hate fans who pack the stadium when the team is losing
2. 2+2ers hate fans who only care about the team when they're winning

clearly, the only fan the posters here like is one who never comes to games at all.

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saw the pic on IB today and immediately thought of your comment crockpot
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:07 PM
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I don't understand why you want to get rid of Ramirez. He's coming off back to back years of .920+ OPS and he just turned 28. He's slumped this year but he's beginning to pick it up. I also don't see the why the Cubs shouldn't keep Walker. He puts up a .350 OBP every year, which is the Cubs main problem and he's pretty cheap. Get a big bat for LF next year, let Pierre leave, bring up Pie and keep everyone else and the offense will be fine.
1.Pie
2.Walker
3.Lee
4.Ramirez
5.C. Lee or another big FA bat
6.Barrett
7.Jones
8.Cedeno
is a pretty good lineup.


As for the pitching, I have no idea what to do there.
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