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Old 07-06-2006, 02:13 PM
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think chris ferguson, most likely the greatest math mind in all of poker and no doubt one of the best tourney players in the world. but is he the best? probably not. ask yourself why.

[/ QUOTE ] Chris Ferguson is the greatest math mind in all of poker. Chris Ferguson is probably not the greatest poker player in the world. Therefore, math is not important in poker.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: The Freakonomics of Tournaments: A Preview (74s UTG at final table

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think chris ferguson, most likely the greatest math mind in all of poker and no doubt one of the best tourney players in the world. but is he the best? probably not. ask yourself why.

[/ QUOTE ] Chris Ferguson is the greatest math mind in all of poker. Chris Ferguson is probably not the greatest poker player in the world. Therefore, math is not important in poker.

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jcm is freakin demolishing this thread

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Old 07-06-2006, 02:35 PM
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jcm is freakin demolishing this thread

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I'm hiring him as my spokesman.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:38 PM
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Pure genius!

This is textbook case of how a Big Stack should play at FT. Your chips are worth less because you have more of them and for every calm and patient villain who will wait to make a stand with JJ+ more will wilt under the pressure and fall to the need to act as M shrinks. As your stack continues to grow with their chips you turn up the pressure on the remainders. Everyone is feeding the other guy to the alligator.

I often bust out of tournaments sooner than I otherwise would because I'll push back at the Big Stack if I feel he's trying to run me over. I believe I'm not not just playing THAT particular hand but it's for every other time I'll cross swords with Big Stack Bully or anyone else at the table.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: The Freakonomics of Tournaments: A Preview (74s UTG at final table

Nath,

After reading the last page of this thread, I reverse myself and feel that

a)your play was absolutely correct
b)you should post 5 more of these threads
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:50 PM
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Nath,

After reading the last page of this thread, I reverse myself and feel that

a)your play was absolutely correct
b)you should post 5 more of these threads

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I can't tell if this is serious or sarcasm.
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Old 07-06-2006, 02:57 PM
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Pure genius!

This is textbook case of how a Big Stack should play at FT. Your chips are worth less because you have more of them and for every calm and patient villain who will wait to make a stand with JJ+ more will wilt under the pressure and fall to the need to act as M shrinks. As your stack continues to grow with their chips you turn up the pressure on the remainders. Everyone is feeding the other guy to the alligator.

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This is an important point to remember, especially at final tables: While everyone wants somebody to stand up to the big stack, almost nobody actually wants to do it, because taking a stand with a hand that might be a slight +cEV favorite (and might NOT) could cost them a lot of real money equity if it busts them.

So I scoop small pot after small pot until someone stands up to me. Then I either bust them or double them up, and either way I get right back to it, because if I double them up those chips come from all the pots I've stolen.

(That last paragraph is basically paraphrasing an idea in Super/System. It's still astoundingly effective.)
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: The Freakonomics of Tournaments: A Preview (74s UTG at final table

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Pure genius!

This is textbook case of how a Big Stack should play at FT. Your chips are worth less because you have more of them and for every calm and patient villain who will wait to make a stand with JJ+ more will wilt under the pressure and fall to the need to act as M shrinks. As your stack continues to grow with their chips you turn up the pressure on the remainders. Everyone is feeding the other guy to the alligator.

I often bust out of tournaments sooner than I otherwise would because I'll push back at the Big Stack if I feel he's trying to run me over. I believe I'm not not just playing THAT particular hand but it's for every other time I'll cross swords with Big Stack Bully or anyone else at the table.

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Either this is completely sarcastic, or you are an idiot
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:27 PM
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One more comment about my style before I pack up to go back to Houston:

The 74s may be a mistake. If it is, though, it's only a small one. I make lots of small mistakes when I play, I'm sure. However, those small mistakes and the image they create induce my opponents to make big mistakes against me. They fold when they should call or raise; they raise when they should fold; they pay off my big hands because they have no idea what I have.
If a 50 chip mistake on one hand induces someone to make a 500 chip mistake against you on another, you're doing the right thing. It's not an easy situation to set up, but when you do you can run a table and pound on them mercilessly.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:43 PM
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Nath,

I can't tell if the post above mine was serious or sarcasm.
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