KK against aggression

buhler26 · #1 03-24-2006, 04:06 PM

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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, SB folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB
Main Pot: 20 BB, between MP3 and Hero.

Nick Royale · #2 03-24-2006, 04:12 PM

I think you should cut your hand where MP bets the river, seeing his 3-bet will definately colour the responses.

When SB checks the river I think there's a big risk he's not calling 2 bets back to him (sure, he might not even call 1 if he's on a fd). However, after the flop getting capped and MP leads into you I don't think you're ahead enough with just a pair to raise profitably. Also we would like an overcall. Easy call imo.

Buck_65 · #3 03-24-2006, 04:41 PM

Raise the turn and call down if you get 3-bet.

Nick Royale · #4 03-24-2006, 04:43 PM

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Raise the turn and call down if you get 3-bet.

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That's too aggressive.

/Nick R - Not afraid of giving weak advice

Buck_65 · #5 03-24-2006, 04:47 PM

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Raise the turn and call down if you get 3-bet.

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That's too aggressive.

/Nick R - Not afraid of giving weak advice

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Our styles differ greatly apparently, because this is a standard turn raise for me. Probably because everyone's read is that I'm a fishy LAGtard who somehow keeps getting lucky every hand...Postflop will look different for different players here and can still be correct. The more I learn about this game, the more I realize how much the opposition's perception of you and your play style play roles in making a decision like this.

Edit: OOPS I could swear I was in small stakes short-handed this whole time, my bad I'll be more careful in the future. I still feel the turn is close for full ring, but I totally understand the calldown. At 6max you'd need to raise turn IMO.

DPaul · #6 03-24-2006, 04:49 PM

I think you are probably up against a hand that has you beat. When you get capped on the flop, I would be thinking about 2pair or trips although the villan could have a drawing hand. Afterall he is the SB. I think you go into call down mode after the flop.

pocketjacks · #7 03-24-2006, 04:57 PM

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I think you are probably up against a hand that has you beat. When you get capped on the flop, I would be thinking about 2pair or trips although the villan could have a drawing hand. Afterall he is the SB. I think you go into call down mode after the flop.

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I like this line!

Am I weak tight??

lozen · #8 03-24-2006, 05:43 PM

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I think you are probably up against a hand that has you beat. When you get capped on the flop, I would be thinking about 2pair or trips although the villan could have a drawing hand. Afterall he is the SB. I think you go into call down mode after the flop.

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I like it too Weak Line forms Behind Pocketjacks

I like this line!

Am I weak tight??

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dun_noo · #9 03-24-2006, 06:17 PM

I bet MP3 had 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

KEW · #10 03-24-2006, 06:45 PM

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Comments on all streets welcome.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, SB folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB
Main Pot: 20 BB, between MP3 and Hero.

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I only call the flop check raise and then raise on the turn...The better is on the left with a caller in the middle..You can not make it incorrect by raising the flop and by showing aggression both pre flop and on the flop you will very likely get checked to on the turn.. After having the flop capped I would still raise the turn SB could be over playing hands such as TP,TT-88, or FD/SD and MP is showing no aggression just calling...When MP wakes up on the river after showing NO aggression thru out the hand I would only call..If he has you beat you will be 3 bet if he is bluffing he will fold..Raising will often fold the SB who has now only checked...