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Old 03-19-2006, 07:47 PM
tdarko tdarko is offline
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here's an article that talks a little bit about what you are saying... link
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:49 PM
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I agree with almost everything you said.

All of the literature I've received in the past ten years has been extremely sketchy on the amount of protein one can absorb in a short time period. Most manufacturers won't just give a number outright. They kind of hedge and hedge, eventually "agreeing" that more than 30 grams is a waste. No one really knows. How can we really ever know?

Call around. That is my best advice. Call the toll-free numbers on the back of the tubs, and have them tell you what they think.

Obviously the BV is overrated. How can one absorb OVER 100%? The list was for comparison's sake.

I agree with you about the whey isolate. I don't bother.

I was trying to give the OP a simple, easy starting guide. I wasn't trying to part the Red Sea.
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:56 PM
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Hello,

With all due respect, some of the information you posted is incorrect. The comment about the body only being able to digest 30-35 grams of protein at one time is incorrect. Please provide me with the "modern scientists" who have said this. Futhermore, those who have done the "warrior diet", a diet where one eats a full day's food in one sitting (I'm not saying that this is optimal but people have done this especially people in the past such as hunters etc) show that the body digests more than 30-35 grams at time. These people would not be able to survive with just 30-35 grams of protein being digested in a day.

The bioavailability is over-rated. Obviously you don't want a crappy protein shake with poor filtration processes which results in a high lactose content and denatured proteins, but spending the most money for the "highest quality protein shake" is assinine. The differences between a good, regular protein powder such as Optimum Nutrition's 100% whey and an expensive Whey isolate protein are not so great that one produces higher goal (fitness/body/muscle) results than the other.

You further made comparisons between whey and other sources of protein such as chicken and beef. From your post, I gathered that you were saying that whey is superior to these sources of protein. This is not true. It depends on the situation. For example, whey is better for a post workout meal because it is digested faster than chicken or beef. However, whey only would be a terrible choice for a pre bed snack/meal. The reason being that whey is digested so quickly that you don't get a steady stream of proteins/amino acids throughout the night. So to say that whey is simply better than all these other sources of protein is wrong.

The sugar shakes with some protein and a load of sugar you speak of are usually weight gainers. Those are filled with a bunch of sugar such as maltodextrin to add in calories. They are not needed. But that's the reason there is a load of sugar in it - people want the calories.

Finally, protein shakes are not essential. They are optimal for post workout and they are convienent. Drinking protein shakes throughout the day rather than having other sources of protein will not help you reach your fitness goals any faster. Whey protein is still protein. It is not a steroid. Whey protein does replace a well planned diet.

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Thanks for your response. My only problem with having a well balanced diet to gain muscle is that many of the foods that are high on protein take longer to prepare and are much more expensive. (steak, fish, so on) I really dont have anything else around, except maybe eggs.
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Old 03-19-2006, 06:51 PM
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I'm interested
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:02 PM
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Designer Whey is pretty cheap and will give you 24g whey protein per serving. It also tastes pretty damn good. I prefer mint chocolate but feel free to try other flavors. The costco brand of whey protein that is also 24g/serving is cheaper and tastes fine too, but not as good as designer whey
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:08 PM
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Great post Felicia. Thanks a lot.
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:16 PM
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Great post Felicia. Thanks a lot.

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Old 03-19-2006, 07:11 PM
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1 cup vanilla yogurt
1/2 cup milk
1 cup frozen strawberries
1-2 scoops of vanilla protein powder

BLEND
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:16 PM
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Felicia, (and others) when do you suggest taking them? And how often? (taking into account I'm trying to build muscle)
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:17 PM
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Felicia, (and others) when do you suggest taking them? And how often? (taking into account I'm trying to build muscle)

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Before and after workouts. Are you also trying to lose fat? Or just build muscle?
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