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Old 09-20-2007, 06:41 PM
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WTF? Do you really believe Quinn is better than Russell?

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Absolutely.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:46 PM
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One of Charlie's top recruits (so far) for the upcoming season will be featured on ESPN 2 tonight in a high school match up. The bad news is that it's a QB and I'm pretty sure Clausen will be there for another 3 years. The QB playing on ESPN 2 tonight is Dayne Crist he may just be ND's next Zach Frazier.
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:07 PM
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One of Charlie's top recruits (so far) for the upcoming season will be featured on ESPN 2 tonight in a high school match up. The bad news is that it's a QB and I'm pretty sure Clausen will be there for another 3 years. The QB playing on ESPN 2 tonight is Dayne Crist he may just be ND's next Zach Frazier.

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lol ND fans talking about recruits in September. I love this!
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:46 PM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:12 PM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.

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If you saw a 33-3 score, which team would you put with which recruiting classes?

2004-32
2005-40
2006-8
2007-8

2004-56
2005-62
2006-57
2007-18
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:18 PM
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Recruiting class ratings carry some weight with me but not much. When even NFL scouts have trouble evaluating NCAA football players; I think evaluating high school talent can't be even close to an exact science. Some players pan out and others do not.

I remember when the big deal was that king of the world place kicker Scott Bentley committed to ND and the changed his mind and went to Florida State. He turned out to be a huge bust for FSU.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:13 PM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.

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Both members of ESPN's PTI say, "Yes!". Despite being 14 point underdogs at home quite a few "experts" have ND winning on Saturday vs Michigan St. Because I'm a Notre Dame nut I pick them to win every game. But I don't bet on it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:53 PM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.

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Both members of ESPN's PTI say, "Yes!". Despite being 14 point underdogs at home quite a few "experts" have ND winning on Saturday vs Michigan St. Because I'm a Notre Dame nut I pick them to win every game. But I don't bet on it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Yeah, seriously. I love how they gave zero rationale for the pick besides, "Well these guys are tired of hearing how bad they are for a week." Well, MSU has had 17 sacks through 3 games. Notre Dame can't block a volleyball. MSU has the same two running backs that beat the living hell of out ND last year. I just don't see how ND wins this game.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:31 PM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.

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Both members of ESPN's PTI say, "Yes!". Despite being 14 point underdogs at home quite a few "experts" have ND winning on Saturday vs Michigan St. Because I'm a Notre Dame nut I pick them to win every game. But I don't bet on it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Calling the PTI guys "experts" is beyond stretching it.
I don't think that ESPN refers to them as expert-analysts nor do I think that even they would refer to themselves as experts.
They very much act like, "hey, we're kinda just guessing here and having a good time" a lot of the time and that very much seemed to be the case when they picked ND.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:00 AM
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So let's suppose that, say, Michigan St is a team without a bunch of top 30 recruiting years. Did Ty leave enough in the cupboard for a genius football coach to beat them?

Purely a hypothetical question.

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Here's another purely hypothetical question: Let's suppose Purdue doesn't have a bunch of elite recruiting classes, and Charlie Weis is a football genius (yeah, I know the second isn't a hypothetical, but stick with me). Now let's suppose that Purdue is playing Notre Dame.

1. How many points should I be willing to give and still take ND?

2. If the whole world is gone crazy and I'm getting points, should I bet all I have or should I bet all I have plus all I can borrow?
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