Some Stuff About PUA (very long)

[tuq]

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My sister's our generation (24), slim, pretty, and educated.
Most well-adjusted person I've ever known in my life. She dates guys that are her friends first, and doesn't sleep with them until she's dating them. If she doesn't like how she's treated she gives the guy a chance or two, and if he doesn't shape up she walks. Her current BF is a sweet, sappy Greek stage actor who's one of the nicest guys I've ever met, and they're pretty retarded for each other. You tried to pull any of this 'hand' [censored] on her, she'd laugh in your face.

How does she fit into this nonsense about what 'women,' the singular unit, are, and what they want?

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Your sister is an outlier, just like you. To use her as an example of the "average" person would be no different than using you as same. You are cut from the same cloth, after all. And this is just assuming you really know what's going on in her head or in her bedroom.

[traz]

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My sister's our generation (24), slim, pretty, and educated.
Most well-adjusted person I've ever known in my life. She dates guys that are her friends first, and doesn't sleep with them until she's dating them. If she doesn't like how she's treated she gives the guy a chance or two, and if he doesn't shape up she walks. Her current BF is a sweet, sappy Greek stage actor who's one of the nicest guys I've ever met, and they're pretty retarded for each other. You tried to pull any of this 'hand' [censored] on her, she'd laugh in your face.

How does she fit into this nonsense about what 'women,' the singular unit, are, and what they want?

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Your sister is an outlier, just like you. To use her as an example of the "average" person would be no different than using you as same. You are cut from the same cloth, after all. And this is just assuming you really know what's going on in her head or in her bedroom.

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In addition to what tuq said, which is correct on all points, can we stop equating PUA with treating girls poorly? I'm not sure how many times that has to be said, but apparently it's near infinite.

It's not about treating them poorly, it's about being self-respecting men and not treating them like gods.

[Jon1000]

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She dates guys that are her friends first, and doesn't sleep with them until she's dating them.

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I am not comfortable w/ equating sexuality to morality and being good.

Then again "i want hot chicks on my dick (ldo)" makes me a little uncomfortable even if it's not misogynistic.

[highhustla]

yeah dude I give up. You are never getting laid ever.

jon: if the (ldo) didn't tip you off, it was a jopke

[Jon1000]

I wasn't sure. Whether or not you have that attitude though, it seems to underlie some of the PUA stuff, and I'm confident that guys who are initially drawn to this stuff are drawn to it for those reasons and it does come off as hollow.

[highhustla]

Yeah that's kinda what I'm saying though. On one level, it's shallow, but on another level, it's what you both want. Doesn't mean there isn't foreplay or emotion involved.

[onthebutton]

I've had kind of an OOT vacation lately. Good to know some things never change though. Nice thread.

[kkcountry]

This thread could have been three pages shorter if I had managed to find this book for Cardo before all the shtt hit the fan

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...s_promot_widget

[Anacardo]

I suppose it wouldn't do any good to mention, for the seven millionth time, that I don't need any help picking up girls, and am far more interested in this stuff theoretically than practically.

[highhustla]

For the seven millionth time, we don't believe you?

If you are so good at picking up girls, why can't you CONTRIBUTE anything to the subject? On any [censored] level at all. Honestly. I read the whole goddamn thread and I think you are a virgin, not that there's anything wrong with that.