What did Yang have when Childs folded QQ?

[wtfmates]

cant wait to see the hole cards

[betgo]

I think Childs was probably ahead. There is a good chance Yang had KK/AA, but he could have AK, a mid pp, or some junk.

I don't think Yang had 22-88, as he would probably call and play for a set against the UTG raiser. If he was making a play, he probably had something like a suited connector/gapper, Axs, Ks or broadway cards.

Yang could have had a read Childs was weak/tight from playing him the previous day and was making a play with any 2 cards. If so, it will become one of the most famous hands ever, and Yang's reputation as a player will be enhanced.

[PokerFink]

I'm with ElD and Doug. No idea what Yang had, but I really, really doubt it beat QQ.

That fold (and the 8 Yang spiked) will haunt Childs for the rest of his life. Which really sucks.

[gvegas]

"its just not that easy to pick up AA/KK"

actually at a nine handed table, one of your opponents will have AA or KK around 8% of the time. Not exactly like getting struck by lightning.

[betgo]

[ QUOTE ]
"its just not that easy to pick up AA/KK"

actually at a nine handed table, one of your opponents will have AA or KK around 8% of the time. Not exactly like getting struck by lightning.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeh, I wouldn't be suprised to see AA/KK. AK is also quite likely.

[heffmike]

first timer - if you want to believe this interview with Norman Chad - no reason to lie,
reraise an UTG raiser with 44. Geez. God is great, I guess...

http://blogs.tampabay.com/poker/2007...mment-76364328

[ QUOTE ]

Hey Lee,

Great lay down!! If you listen to Jerry's interview with Norman Chad he said he was in a hand where he had 4-4 and he prayed to the lord for a set, and the lord gave it to him. He also said that "the guy" had QQ, so I'm assuming that he was talking about that hand, since there was a 4 on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

EDIT: haven't listened to the interview myself yet. anyone out there DVR it and confirm he's talking about this hand and not some other random hand?

[technologic]

i think once you commit that much of your stack in the pot on that board, you have to call there. too much of a chance he could be bluffing/overvaluing a worse hand.

i don't know much about yang's image prior, or if childs had a lot of history with him, but IIRC yang had gotten a bit feisty the orbit before the QQ hand.

if you play the hand preflop, why are you calling the raise OOP? what's the point in a lead if you're going to fold to an all in? although i wouldn't be too surprised to see AA/KK, i feel that this is a part of his MUCH larger range.

[Eder]

Childs made the worst fold ever...cant wait to see the hand...hope he was on a draw

[sweetjazz]

[ QUOTE ]
"its just not that easy to pick up AA/KK"

actually at a nine handed table, one of your opponents will have AA or KK around 8% of the time. Not exactly like getting struck by lightning.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did you read the rest of my post where I said it's different if, say, Lee Watkinson raises your UTG raise than if the guy who played half of his hands in the first orbit raises you. Yes an aggressive player sometimes picks up AA or KK, but more often he has a worse hand.

The quick action by Yang indicates to me that he was plannign to go all-in the whole way. Could it be because he had AA? Yes, but that's a somewhat strange way of playing the hand, because you would like to at least create the impression of having a decision to make. On the other hand, if you think you are ordained by God to win the WSOP then you can go all-in and pray that your opponent folds or calls and you hit what you need on the turn and river (even if it is a runner-runner draw).

It is not a great spot for Childs, but bet/folding the flop was just an awful line. On that flop he has to just check/raise all-in and hope for the best. No doubt some of the time Yang will show up with AA or KK (or even a flopped set), but most of the time the queens will be ahead. Of course, Yang would have called his A3 or what have you and started praying to God for an ace or wheel.

[GotQuads]

OOP it's probably better to push or fold QQ to the reraise.