Aggressive BR management strategy + site to try on?

[ssdex]

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Does any one think that you may need a bigger BR than 20BI if you are 6 - 9 tableing. I play 25NL and 50NL (4 - 12 tables) and have a br of over 80BI for 25NL, mabye im just a nit

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80bi for 25NL is crazy. At least move up to 50NL.

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fwiw, I think playing overrolled is way better than underrolled, 20 bi is plenty 4 tabling, but if your playing more than that I think your roll needs to be exponentially higher....... read jman's blog at cardrunners today, its pretty good, there will be a point in your poker career where you run so bad you never knew it was possible, its important to be able to move down during this period and also to be properly rolled, 20 bi downswings happen, I mean I am the biggest nit alive, i play with the minimum of 100 usually a lot more than that.... read this for bankroll management, I wrote it awhile ago and it only applies for those of you who plan on moving up slowly and learning the game

bankroll managemnt by dex

[Capone]

yeah if you can get to 2k id be suprised.

[Check_The_Nuts]

I think its doable but you have to run pretty hot and already be a decent winner at the level. I ran at 9 PTBB/100 over something like 20k hands (and 10kish breakeven that weren't on my computer I think). I finished up 1k from this to go from 50-100. At 100 I immediately ran super-hot over 2-3k hands at 30 PTBB/100 and now have the roll for 200NL.

so yeah, possible, but holy [censored] I ran good lol. I also won't be moving up. I'm just going to cash out about a grand and try to work it back up to a 200 bankroll. If I can do that I figure I'm probably good enough to start taking shots at 200.

[jk1986]

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that chris ferguson thing is awesome, i remember starting a thread about that at another forum ages ago but i didn't think he was actually DOING it for real.

when i saw him playing 50/1 tables at FTP the other night i was like OMG he is still doing it!

can you imagine the accomplishment if he can manage to do this?

i've tried turning $1 into a big roll numerous times following the tips he talks about but i just dont know how someone with that much money can do it.

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He's a FTP pro. They get 35 dollars an hour and full rakeback just to play...so yeah, he is grinding, but it's at a larger hourly rate than you'd think.

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I really hope he's not including that in his winrate/BR. Kinda spoils the challenge if he is. Actually thinking about it I'm pretty sure he's not including his pro money otherwise he'd have got through the micro's really quickly.

[mattnxtc]

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No its not realistic. You are starting at around 500 I assume? You need to get to 4000 to be rolled for 200nl...do you see the issue with this? Try to get properly rolled for just 100nl this month and youll have had one heck of a month.

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Well, I figure with the amount of hands im playing each day (3kish most likely), 2 buy-ins a day (averaged over the month) is very very doable. With that in mind, I would have 20 buy-ins for 200 nl at the end of the month - $4k. And yes, I would be starting with $500. I should add in, I also play the 400 FPP rebuy and 500 FPP satellites into sunday million so if I add in 4 wins total for a month I think it should make reaching nl 200 by the end of the month quite easy to accomplish.

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Well I mean if you put it that way, you could just win the Sunday Millions and be rolled for most limits.

According to your math you are looking at roughly 90,000 hands in the month. That is an extremely large amount of hands to play in one month and not get burned out on. If you do more power to you and you may be able to get there. But You will have to watch that with such a large amount of hands played that you will face fatigue and burnout which will hurt results.

[Craggoo]

No, I just unregister from the tourney and sell the T$ to a buddy on AIM. I promise you, I won't get burned out [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. I used to do a 24 hour session (live) every weekend at the casino. This kind of thing is something I can totally handle.

[ssdex]

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No its not realistic. You are starting at around 500 I assume? You need to get to 4000 to be rolled for 200nl...do you see the issue with this? Try to get properly rolled for just 100nl this month and youll have had one heck of a month.

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Well, I figure with the amount of hands im playing each day (3kish most likely), 2 buy-ins a day (averaged over the month) is very very doable. With that in mind, I would have 20 buy-ins for 200 nl at the end of the month - $4k. And yes, I would be starting with $500. I should add in, I also play the 400 FPP rebuy and 500 FPP satellites into sunday million so if I add in 4 wins total for a month I think it should make reaching nl 200 by the end of the month quite easy to accomplish.

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Well I mean if you put it that way, you could just win the Sunday Millions and be rolled for most limits.

According to your math you are looking at roughly 90,000 hands in the month. That is an extremely large amount of hands to play in one month and not get burned out on. If you do more power to you and you may be able to get there. But You will have to watch that with such a large amount of hands played that you will face fatigue and burnout which will hurt results.

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I don't think 90k is unreasonable for a month for a full-time player, I work full time and play poker part time and i get in 50-60k hands a month only playing 20-25 hours a week, A full time player should be playing 45-50 at the minimum, I think the goal should be like 110k hands.

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Does any one think that you may need a bigger BR than 20BI if you are 6 - 9 tableing. I play 25NL and 50NL (4 - 12 tables) and have a br of over 80BI for 25NL, mabye im just a nit

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80bi for 25NL is crazy. At least move up to 50NL.

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fwiw, I think playing overrolled is way better than underrolled, 20 bi is plenty 4 tabling, but if your playing more than that I think your roll needs to be exponentially higher....... read jman's blog at cardrunners today, its pretty good, there will be a point in your poker career where you run so bad you never knew it was possible, its important to be able to move down during this period and also to be properly rolled, 20 bi downswings happen, I mean I am the biggest nit alive, i play with the minimum of 100 usually a lot more than that.... read this for bankroll management, I wrote it awhile ago and it only applies for those of you who plan on moving up slowly and learning the game

bankroll managemnt by dex

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I`m a pretty big bankroll nit myself. I use 30 buy ins for each given level. and will only move up to 200NL once I have 40 buy ins (8000$). But playing with 80BI at 25NL is given away +EV. You would make much more money playing 50NL and probably learn more. maybe you should cut down some tables. I play 4 to 8 tables, depends on my mood. 80BI is just not necessary, when you willing to move down if things go bad.

And I know big downswings happen. Just had one myself about 4 days ago, I played straight for 13 hrs, started loosing 11BI and won them back the same night playing about 7000 hands. No tilt just KK vs AA, sets getting beat etc ...