Can anyone fill us in on Vanessa Rousso altercation?

[Cornell Fiji]

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um she berated a guy for "2 outering" her after she checked behind (and screwed up every other decision in the hand, while constantly talking, calling the guy "an idiot with kk," and taking so long the dealer had to call a clock) and then i called her on it after the hand was over(i say anything insulting other than that she screwed up the hand) and then she tilted her stack off to some other guy at the table and left. chad approached me in the hallway of the rio later that day and wanted to fight but that didn't seem like a good idea so i walked away.

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nh

[El Diablo]

NC,

"plus he's banging a hotter chic than you ever will"

Who is he banging besides this Rousso chick?

[VanessaRousso]

Here is the true sequence of events:

I get moved to a new table with 12000 in chips. I am there less than 10 hands when I get dealt AJ suited on the button (6 handed tournament by the way). Checks to cutoff short stack player who raises to 600 (100, 200 blinds). I call. Aggressive big stack in the big blind re raises to 2000 (this is an important note…this player did this several times before in only the last ten hands, either he was being hit with the deck or he was steamrolling with his 25K+ stack when average stack was only 6K or so, so he can’t be given too much credit). Small stack pushes all in for 2150 (which means if I call the big blind big stack can’t re-raise because 150 is not considered an actual raise). I make an aggressive call of 1550 more because I was getting more than 3:1 on my money, we were shorthanded so AJ is stronger than in ring games, and I still have a healthy 10K (almost double average) stack even if I lose. Flop comes A A 2 rainbow. Big stack checks and I check. 10 comes on the turn putting up a flush draw. Big stack checks and I bet 2K with my trip aces. Big stack insta-pushes all in for my remaining 8K. This was a very difficult decision. I didn’t think he would push so fast without thinking first with an Ace (it wasn't like he tought about how to get the most out of me which is what a player with trips would do in that scenario)…then I remembered something he said after I called the 2150 pre-flop. He asked the dealer if he could re-raise. The way he said it, he didn’t seem to be happy about a 3-way pot. This made me feel confident he possessed a big pair. He couldn’t have aces since I had an ace. So that left KK, QQ, JJ, and Tens. I thought that he was aggressive enough to put this kind of move on with KK since the pot was so big and given his past play. But eventually I settled on the fact that he had Tens, he hit the two-outer on the turn and realized I must have trip aces and thought he could easily get my whole stack right there with a push all in.

That left me with one more thing to think about before I settled on a fold. Was I getting the pot odds to call even if I was behind? I had one ace in the deck, three jacks, and three twos to help me…that is 7 outs…but with only one card to come that is about 14% so I need to get more than 6:1 to make the call. I would only be getting about half that, so folding was the right play. At this point seat one (another player not in the hand) calls time and I am forced to make a decision. All in all I took maybe 4 minutes to make what was one of the toughest lay downs I have had to make in a while. I muck the Ace and show it, and the big stack says good read and shows the pocket tens. I was really happy to have made the correct decision, so when the big stack apologized for sucking out I smiled and said “that’s poker, nice hand.” Then I turned to the table generally and said, “Hey guys sorry that took so long, I hate to do that but it was for my tournament life and as you can see it was a really tough lay down.”

I wish that was the end of the story. As the dealer is dealing the next hand, someone I have never before seen or heard of in seat five (who wasn’t even in the hand) says in my general direction, “You are awful.” I turned to him and said, “Excuse me, what did you just say?” He looked me square in the eye and said, “You are awful, you played the whole hand like an idiot, you let him get there.” I just lost half my stack and this random guy is seriously going to needle me??!?!? Are you kidding me, is he for real? I say to him, “I’m sorry…am I confused? Did you buy me in? Because I could have sworn I bought myself in to this tournament. So I will tell you what: when you are the one ponying up 2500$ for me, then I will play like you think I should. But as long as I’m paying my own buyins, I am going to play the way I see fit.” It should have ended right there.

He looks me straight in the eye again and says, “You are pathetic.” I turn away and say, “You know what? You aren’t even worth it, I’m ignoring you from here on out.” He still will not quit. He says, “Not worth what, Idiot?” I ignore him and he calls me “pathetic” yet again, mumbling other comments in between half-smirks for the next ten minutes. He really, really, really went too far. In the end, I did not even give him the time of day for the next 30 minutes until I was eliminated.

I later found out that the guy was Aaron Been. I read Aaron’s post where he says I called the big stack an idiot with kings. He is a liar—and that doesn’t even make any sense, why would I (or anyone) have said that when the guy had TENS!!!! Moreover, I, unlike others, do not need to stoop to name calling at the table to try to get an edge. The big stack and I got along very well and when I was later eliminated he again apologized for always seeming to have the best of it when I picked up good hands too…I wished him and the others luck and left.

This was truly the most bizarre and confusing random act of anger I have ever seen. I mean I have never even spoken to this kid before! Clearly Aaron was steaming (he had a short stack) for reasons unbeknownst to me and he just decided to lose his [censored] for his own messed up reasons. Get some help buddy.

When Chad and I randomly ran into Aaron a few hours later in the hall of the Rio, Chad asked Aaron if he had a problem with me he wanted to address. Aaron didn’t deny a thing when Chad verified he had acted the way I had recounted. So Chad asked him to apologize and Aaron stood there in silence—not that I would think he would have the class to be a man and apologize for such blatantly indefensible rudeness. Chad stuck up for me the way I would hope any guy would stick up for their girlfriend when they are blatantly and FOR NO REAON (on the heels of an apology to the table for taking extra time no less!!) disrespected and essentially abused at the poker table.

I must have made a really easy target for Aaron. What a tough guy…he can pick on a 24 year old girl at a poker table when she has no recourse whatsoever but to ignore him…he must have felt really tough!!!

And as far as Aaron’s evaluation of my play: I might respect his opinion a little more when he has more than 5% of my live tournament career earnings.

I play poker for a living. I am sorry that people have such disrespect for the game and for other humans in general that they can act how Aaron did. In my opinion, he degrades poker and himself when he acts like that. He was unsportsmanlike, rude, abusive, inappropriate, and genuinely seemed to enjoy his attempt to hurt me. I hate to break it to you Aaron, but the only thing ‘pathetic’ at that table, was you.

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NC,

"plus he's banging a hotter chic than you ever will"

Who is he banging besides this Rousso chick?

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vnh.

[miami32]

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chad approached me in the hallway of the rio later that day and wanted to fight.

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LOL

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[Methodz]

Def. didn't expect Vanessa to reply here....

but I guess that just makes the thread better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[miami32]

Are you serious?

You write a whole post about how you are a nice person, and how you acted professional and this and that and then you make a post entitled arron who? Get over yourself. You are Vanessa Rouso, a nobody in the poker world. You haven't actually WON a major tournament. You have only one major cash. If your name was Don rousso instead of Vanessa, people wouldn't even know you exist. You are so busy being self absorbed with your own twisted reality to even realize how retarted you just actually came off. If you indeed wanted to take the high road you wouldn't have just railroaded arron into the ground. I know neither of you, but you come off like such an idiot I had to respond. Oh btw, your an adult, playing an adult game, learn to take it when someone talks [censored] to you. If you need your boyfriend to back you up, don't hide behind a computer screen now and talk [censored].

[Ansky]

Man, as someone who has met Aaron in real life I can think of no story that would contradict my impressions of him more than that one. Obviously, I was not there and can't really say what happened, but holy [censored] that does NOT seem like Aaron at all, I suspect that either someone is bullshitting, or there is just a big mistake.

[VanessaRousso]

I don't know why it matters if I've ever won anything, but, um, I have (the 2006 borgata open 5k wpt).

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chad wouldnt have said [censored] to chodezilla!