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06-08-2007, 04:54 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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[ QUOTE ] Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Linda has been writing this for quite some time. [/ QUOTE ] Indeed. I always thought she got away with it with just using first names and sometimes initials.. not explicitly spelling out who it was that did what. But here she quite plainly states that it was Sam Farha. I agree that this could possibly be grounds for being let go. 
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06-08-2007, 05:29 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Linda has been writing this for quite some time. [/ QUOTE ] Indeed. I always thought she got away with it with just using first names and sometimes initials.. not explicitly spelling out who it was that did what. But here she quite plainly states that it was Sam Farha. I agree that this could possibly be grounds for being let go. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but this whole situation seems weird to me. Now, let me preface this with saying that I am not a dealer nor do I live in Vegas, so maybe I don't have the same understanding as some of you who are involved with these type of situations day in and day out. However, to me it seems weird if this is (as Photoc wrote in this thread) "...pretty standard in bigger games." Am I to assume that in big games, players normally tip LESS by both percentage during AND amount at the end of a game/session?!? If this is so, why is that the case? I have played small stakes live (100 NL, 200 NL) and people normally tip a couple dollars per pot (some more, others less), but I dont think I've ever seen more than a few hands in a row go untipped. So I dont understand how players that are literally playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars dont tip at all at the end of a session. Maybe this is uber-standard to some of you guys, but I am a noob when it comes to tipping high stakes games, so excuse me for my ignorance if this is actually the case. Also, in reference to the post that I quoted above, why would this dealer be fired? Because she posted her dealing history on an internet diary?!? Especially after they both stiffed her? If what she wrote is true, then what exactly would she be getting fired for? In conclusion, I'm sorry if this stuff is apparent to others who are closely tied to the industry and know how all this stuff "works"; but to me, alot that is written in this thread seems slightly ridiculous (probably cause I'm a noob to this stuff) and bothers me a little bit. Any input is appreciated.
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06-08-2007, 08:44 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but this whole situation seems weird to me. Now, let me preface this with saying that I am not a dealer nor do I live in Vegas, so maybe I don't have the same understanding as some of you who are involved with these type of situations day in and day out. [/ QUOTE ] I have a friend that deals in Vegas and he never mentioned it but a mutual friend that deals here locally, told me while LHAO, "X, is out there dealing $1,000-2,000 limit holdem and they tipped him $5 for his down." WhileI find it unimaginable to be playing that high and stiffing the dealers, I am confident it happens on a regular basis. In the casino industry you don't talk bad your customers, especially the high rollers. If you can't say something nice, you are much better off, not speaking about high rollers.
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06-08-2007, 11:08 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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[ QUOTE ] Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Linda has been writing this for quite some time. [/ QUOTE ] I should have said "Let go some time ago", this has been going on for too long.
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#5
06-08-2007, 11:19 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
Wrongful termination, party of one! Your tables ready!
As I said in my previous post, there is no privelage or nondisclosure agreement, so she can blog about the players all she wants. What exactly has been "going on too long"? Telling the truth about people she deals to? There is no libel claim, since she is indeed telling the truth as far as we know. Whst is the incentive not to disclose details? Unwritten rule? It's a two way street, if that is the case, and if the high limit players choose to go one way, they should fully expect the dealers to go the other.
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#6
06-08-2007, 02:57 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] iirc correctly she wrote some piece last year that had to do with not tipping as well. I think Sam Grizzle fit in there somewhere too but might have been a completely different part of her blog entry having nothing to do with tipping.
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06-08-2007, 05:55 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously. She has some mighty big balls.
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#8
06-08-2007, 06:51 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
I certainly sympathize, and have no problems with stiffs being outed for what they are, but I don't think this is the smartest career move on Linda's part. It is pretty unprofessional on her part, even if it might be a little frustrating.
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06-08-2007, 10:45 AM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Strongly disagree. There is no attorney client privelage here, nor is there any non disclosure agreement between poker dealers and players. If you want to make an argument that there is an unwritten rule about dealers not discussing said things, a counter argument can be made about an unwritten concerning toking the dealer (which is a pretty well known one).
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#10
06-08-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: Farha/Townsend stiff dealer?
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[ QUOTE ] Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Strongly disagree. There is no attorney client privelage here, nor is there any non disclosure agreement between poker dealers and players. If you want to make an argument that there is an unwritten rule about dealers not discussing said things, a counter argument can be made about an unwritten concerning toking the dealer (which is a pretty well known one). [/ QUOTE ] Agree completely. Why should she be silenced, because these players can't afford to tip a good dealer? Obviously Sammy and Brian don't think it's necessary to tip a dealer doing their job correctly, so why should they care if everyone knows this. They shouldn't be ashamed of their views if they think they are correct, otherwise they would be tipping the dealers. TT, why should Linda care about Sammy losing in the pit, she and the dealers still get paid minimum wage by the B no matter how much he drops on table games.
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