mining the new party

[hhSmithey]

I think I'm gonna go for it. I think this system would be far better than buying a grey-market dataminer. My friend and I will do daily emails distributing mined hands specific stakes. We expect to do at least 15k hands of full table /day/stake, and 24k hands of 6max /day/stake to begin with, and much more as things get settled. These daily shots of data should be at least as large as people would be able to do themselves, and because we are the only ones who will have this miner, it will be difficult for party to do anything to stop it.

As I said, the plan is to distribute zipped text files daily, for maybe a mothly fee. Until the system is really up and running, we won't be able to do a wide selection of levels. For any who are seriously interested, please answer this poll. There have been some references to cost, and all I will say is that we will make it as cheap as is reasonably possible.

[joop]

No 100NL? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[goodguy_1]

you should also include $1-2 NLHE FULL/6MAX -a game akin to $5-10 LHE and about the same sd(~$150 per hr.)

btw 15K-24K is not alot of hands I was doing 70K on one workstation and 15K-40K on my other one daily for ~100K total. The prices should be realistic if you are going to offer so few hands either way I'm happy to see you doing this and like others I'm very interested- money is not a priority as long as things are done professionally.

[hhSmithey]

To begin with the price will be quite realistic:

$0.

Our website will be up in the next couple of days. You will be able to select which levels you want to receive data for and submit your email address. We won't start charging until we have something in place that people would be happy to pay for.

We won't offer many levels at first, just the top 3 or 4 from the poll.

[LuckyDevil]

I would be interested in this to. Mostly 3/6 6m at the moment. PM me when you get thing up and running.

[goodguy_1]

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To begin with the price will be quite realistic:

$0.

Our website will be up in the next couple of days. You will be able to select which levels you want to receive data for and submit your email address. We won't start charging until we have something in place that people would be happy to pay for.

We won't offer many levels at first, just the top 3 or 4 from the poll.

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sounds great! count me in

[Dazarath]

HhSmithey, you do realize that there is going to be sampling bias in your poll, right? Another point I'd like to make is that mid-stakes players can pay more than small stakes players. Krishan said she'd pay $100/month for good data. I'd pay about the same. I doubt you'll be finding 3/6 6-max players offering anywhere close to that much.

(I know, it's just because I want my data. Feel free to ignore my post. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])

[krishan]

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HhSmithey, you do realize that there is going to be sampling bias in your poll, right? Another point I'd like to make is that mid-stakes players can pay more than small stakes players. Krishan said she'd pay $100/month for good data. I'd pay about the same. I doubt you'll be finding 3/6 6-max players offering anywhere close to that much.

(I know, it's just because I want my data. Feel free to ignore my post. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])

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Also, setting up a public website is probably the wrong way to do it. Party has already shown how heavy handed it can get when users to go a website they feel violates their T&C. (PokerEdge, PokerProphecy). Your best bet is to get a group of high limit players who like data and work it out under the table. I wouldn't be suprised if you could clear a decent chunk while staying under the radar this way.

Krishan

[hhSmithey]

Was there ever any evidence that Party could tell if you had visited a violater's website? To be safe at first, people may not want to visit our site while the Party client is running.

If higher limit players would PM me what stakes they would like data for, and how many hands/day they would like to see it would be helpful. I currently play 10/20 6max for a living, so you can be sure that will make the list.

[teddyFBI]

Yes, several people mentioned that they got the 'banned software' warning even though they only VISITED Edge or Prophecy's website. I guess Party just scanned for cookies from that site.

Anyway - i agree -- nothing good can come from a public site. I would (at least initially) do it via private email.
(BTW, i want 20/40 and 30/60 data with at least 4+ people in every hand). I will pay a decent chunk for it, but def want to give it a shot free of charge before deciding anything.