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Old 02-23-2007, 01:35 AM
Dave2020 Dave2020 is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, very interesting spot on turn. top two + fd.

Really tough hand but I don't think a decent player can have anything but a straight here, perhaps a set a small percentage of the time as well.

He overbet the pot into you on the flop and called a hefty reraise which I see as most likely being a draw... perhaps he has top pair with a solid kicker that he failed to raise preflop, even AA/KK but I think his checkraise on the turn abandons these possibilities. Most players, after slowplaying these hands preflop and facing resistance on the flop, are content to just checkcall the turn and river.

With implied odds your technically ok to call the turn with your flush and boat draw. However, I know if I called the turn and missed I would still have a tough time folding to a river shove (bad discipline). So I can't really say folding the turn is all that bad if that's what you did!
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:54 AM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, very interesting spot on turn. top two + fd.

We don't really need implied odds to call unless we are facing QQ,66 or 5s4s. We are offered 2.72:1 and have 13 outs against 54,33,22.
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Old 02-23-2007, 08:15 AM
re-nakken re-nakken is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, very interesting spot on turn. top two + fd.

Here's what went through my head.

When he first lead out with the overbet of 6 on the flop, and called my raise to 22 OOP, I was pretty sure he had some type of draw. When he checkraised me on the turn, I was pretty positive that he had 45, and no flushdraw. I'm convinced that he would 4bet with a set on the flop. So I tanked and called. River was a useless 9d. Before calling the turn, I said to myself that I would most likely fold UI. He insta-shoves river. And stupid as I was, I convinced myself to call the small amount. Which I hated myself for the rest of the day, and quit the session because of that. So much for analyzing and sticking to your read, but in the heat of fire - things sometimes gets really messy. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

He showed 45o.
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