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Old 12-17-2006, 10:12 AM
Jamma Jamma is offline
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Default 4/180 two hands in a row, (table image question)

I'v been playing quite tightly so far.. Mostly because I'v been running dry.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 (t6870)
MP3 (t7030)
CO (t5990)
Button (t4635)
SB (t6662)
BB (t3995)
UTG (t3165)
UTG+1 (t6868)
Hero (t6150)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t500, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1300) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, CO calls t800.

Turn: (t2900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t4690 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t7590

Not a nice flop for a c-bet, but given my tightness I thought he could give me credit for top pair. Also he's been playing pretty straightforward and instafolding when he doesn't have a hand. Turn is nobrainer, but somewhat important as the rest of the table sees "a weak tight nit folding tptk when faced with a big bet".

Which sets up the second hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 (t6870)
MP2 (t7030)
MP3 (t7590)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t4635)</font>
Button (t6562)
SB (t3795)
BB (t3165)
UTG (t6868)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t4850)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t500, CO calls t500, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t1800) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1000</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t1000.

Turn: (t3800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t3135 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t3135.

River: (t10070) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t10070

So I took the exact same line, and it worked wonderfully. Normally I'd just bet away, but with the last hand fresh in mind I thought this way I'd get the money in.

Now my question is, what makes table image in a 4/180? Do people ever give you credit for being tight and only playing real hands, or do the majority just remember the last few hands? Does the majority really play on the 0th level? At times it feels like I get into most trouble when I assume people think about what I'm holding..

I just recently deposited on stars, and so far I'v had no luck in the 4/180s, basically nothing works for me =P (like, this one time, I flop an oesd from the BB, I threebarrel and miss, and get called down by A9 for an ace high? Deep stacks early on, it seemed like a good idea at the time).

And ofcourse, variance has been a bitch.. So I'm loosing both faith and confidence.

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and threes).
CO has Ac 3c (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: CO wins t10070. Hero got money in with 95.5% equity</font>
(My intention is not a BBV post in the wrong forum, the hands aren't so interesting, they just highlight the question and the result doesn't really affect anything)
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